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codetaku wrote:
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Lynerus wrote:
So you basically can make a macro that scans your hp and just runs this program once you get low since the scan is client side i think and it would only be 1 server action (they have these programs for MW to scan parts of peoples bodies)
GGG can not tell the difference between this and just logging off with said program because its client side and doesnt get logged other than your client closing
If the program is constantly running and will auto-log you out once your health reaches a certain threshold, that's not a macro, it's just a regular script, which is differently banned.
They actually can and do detect that in particular because if you always perfectly send logouts at the same time as you receive health info packets detailing less than X health, you must be using a script (it's just obvious when it keeps happening with inhuman precision).
If it's a button you manually press to scan your health and then log you out... I think that *would* be allowed, but it seems largely useless. (holding the button down would be equivalent to GGG as just running a background script)
Maybe...
I want to say something but im not sure how GGG feels about talking about macros/hacking in other games so i wont :P
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Posted byLynerus#6363on Dec 10, 2019, 6:06:59 PM
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Droch_Rendger wrote:
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johnmiltonn wrote:
This is a program, that interferes with the game executable directly.
a memory scanning/changing program, like GG or CE ot the likes?
It has nothing to the game exe. It closes connections opened by the application like you turned net cable jack out from the NIC or closed your PPPoE/VPN/Ethernet interface in the Network Settings or Device Manager.
*Space::
{
....if (!g_KeyState_Space)
....{
........g_KeyState_Space := true
........Critical, On
........RunWait, g:\Disconnect\cports.exe /close * * * * PathOfExile_x64.exe
....}
....return
}
G: is RAM disk and Disconnect folder contains all DLL imported by cports.exe... for faster executing ;)
That is incorrect!
Unplugging your cable will NOT close your connection, it will just cause a timeout on your connection, which is the worse thing you can do. Basically, the server then will wait 10-20 secs before it sees that it can't reach you and then disconnect your char.
Try it :)
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Droch_Rendger wrote:
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McClaritinD wrote:
But the best part is I get to read these scrubcore cope threads.
Haha, same. They mad on players which play different gamemode which they even don't play.
I'm not mad at anyone, and I've certainly said nothing about who should or shouldn't play HC/SC.
All I'm saying is that this particular logout macro is in fact NOT a simple macro (as everyone believes it to be) but a hacking tool.
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Posted byjohnmiltonn#5577on Dec 10, 2019, 8:17:24 PM
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codetaku wrote:
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herflik wrote:
GGG say that you can use macro as long as 1 button = 1 action.
If its like pluging out your cable jack then its few actions: stand up from your chair, go around your computer, catch the cable, plug out.
So in this term its illegal.
Server action.
Not client action.
Not computer action.
Not human action.
Server action.
That's what they've always said. If a macro would perform more than 1 server action, it's banned (for example, a flask macro).
If you don't understand what a server action is, you have no place in this discussion whatsoever.
That goes for OP too, but there are more things wrong with the OP than just not understanding what a server action is....
I did not talk about or mention "server action" at all :)
What you are talking about is macros, like setting up AHK macro when you press 1 to actually press 12345 instead (using all flasks with just 1 key button)
When talking about macros, you can discuss server actions, I'm not talking about that.
This logout macro is a hack tool that interferes with the game exe by closing it's tcp/ip connection. It is NOT a macro.
And this is not a discussion who's tough enough to play HC or should go back to SC, I couldn't care less who plays what.
Hack utility is not same as macro.
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Posted byjohnmiltonn#5577on Dec 10, 2019, 8:22:26 PM
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Of course it is cheating...
"I play HC and I am so good, and other ppl are scrubss coz normal league is way too easy" *using scripts to log them off when they are dying*
looool
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Posted bylolcaaa#6268on Dec 10, 2019, 8:37:02 PM
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This is worse than I thought.. Yes.. I always thought the logout macro was for alt+f4..
This should be bannable.
The races are a joke.. just use outside programs for advantage.
PoE is a joke until things like this are either fully implemented, or banned.
Anyway.. so its legal to run this program? Gotcha, I'll be trying it out in the upcoming league.
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Posted byDeletedon Dec 10, 2019, 8:38:47 PM
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herflik wrote:
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Droch_Rendger wrote:
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johnmiltonn wrote:
This is a program, that interferes with the game executable directly.
a memory scanning/changing program, like GG or CE ot the likes?
It has nothing to the game exe. It closes connections opened by the application like you turned net cable jack out from the NIC.
*Space::
{
....if (!g_KeyState_Space)
....{
........g_KeyState_Space := true
........Critical, On
........RunWait, g:\Disconnect\cports.exe /close * * * * PathOfExile_x64.exe
....}
....return
}
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McClaritinD wrote:
But the best part is I get to read these scrubcore cope threads.
Haha, same. They mad on players which play different gamemode which they even don't play.
GGG say that you can use macro as long as 1 button = 1 action.
If its like pluging out your cable jack then its few actions: stand up from your chair, go around your computer, catch the cable, plug out.
So in this term its illegal.
Now the second things is, how many actions does a program need to perform this simulation to close all the connections?
If there is special exe of cports.exe used inside the macro it means that its probably more than 1 command line, otherwise you wouldnt need the exe in first place.
Third "1 action = 1 button" is superb flexible term. For me alt+f4 is 2 actions since it require 2 button press. If you say its same as macro, then why do you use macro in the first place? If its faster it means is require less actions from you, otherwise it wouldnt be faster.
Additionaly I can find bounch of people which will say that pressing 5 flasks at one time is just 1 action for them.
And the last, most important. The exe in the file does something that you cannot manualy do in the game. Meaning that it introduce something new which is the biggest break of a TOS. You cannot close the game manualy by closing its connections first.
If Zizarian or whoever else I dont care about is using such macros, they should be banned, since its obvious program that gave them unfair adventage over other players.
Actually, the described method sends zero commands to the server. For all the PoE server knows, it is the same thing as putting a huge suicide vest bomb on your computer and exploding it. It actually happens faster than that though as described by johnmiltonn. Of course, it is much different from your computer's point of view.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired! Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on Dec 10, 2019, 8:46:52 PM
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Posted byTurtledove#4014on Dec 10, 2019, 8:43:59 PM
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It amazes me when people are so heavily invested in what other people are doing that have zero impact on them.
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Posted byTheBagman#2192on Dec 10, 2019, 8:59:24 PM
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shadowthedead wrote:
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satanttin wrote:
lol well i don't think it's cheating but i do think they shouldn't be playing HC if they are a bunch of pussies.
yeah you mean pussies should play SC?
kek you're right i support your thoughts no jokes really
You heard him folks, SC is pussies
no i said pussies shouldn't use a log out macro to save their ass. wouldn't be so hardcore now would it?
maybe it's time to stop skipping school and learn to read? just a tip though :) bet ur one of em logout macro users huh?
"Now all that's left is for you getting on your knees."
if you know thank me:) i'm dying to find out x'D
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Posted bysatanttin#4601on Dec 11, 2019, 2:19:16 AM
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Wrong narrative.
Logout macros are not about saving your @$$. They are there to get you out and back quickly when either (1) the game freezes; or (2) you would otherwise be taking a slow scroll to town. So really, they are an essential part of racing.
It just happens that they can also save your bacon, but any streamer will tell you that's not their real purpose.
:-)
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Posted byGreyLensman#5323on Dec 11, 2019, 4:34:43 AM
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Also I dont have time to play 24/7 but playing SC makes me bored within a week.
I die several times every league and I always use log out macro.
This game is fun and all but it has unavoidable and unexpected deaths from certain stuff I just have no knowledge about, because again....I do not play 24/7.....
The game is not more or less fun having a logout macro, I just know I quit league after several deaths, so having my character saved for a few times, prolongs the time I play the league....
So log out macro gives me a longer time of fun...
Call me a cheater sure, but without that player base, the so called cheaters, this game is also 50% less players in hardcore :)
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Posted byCheydinhal#5332on Dec 11, 2019, 5:07:14 AM
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