[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Mecielle wrote:
So I managed to fit in Flesh and Stone. Still able to gem swap for Vile Toxins and not using Conquerors Efficiency. All it took was switching to Charisma annoint and getting this unexplainably cheap helmet enchant:



While every other aura reservation is expensive as fuck, this just cost me 3ex.

Now running Hatred, Skitterbots, HoAg, Flesh and Stone and a high level Clarity while being able to use the best support gem combination for HoAg, both for clearing and for single target.

And the effect of Flesh and Stone has already become very obvious, very quickly in my relatively deep delves of 630. A ton less burst damage moments because the melee monsters are all blinded and the ranged monsters deal less damage.

At this point I'm not even sure what I would do with a Herald of Agony reduced reservation enchant. It won't be enough to use Discipline on top of Flesh and Stone. At most I could use it instead of Flesh of Stone, and would still have to keep Charisma.

Yea, thats not even close to being worth 60ex for the enchant :D


Check out my level 100 POB, double curse thanks to enfeeble glove (no need for socketed gem level) and discipline with that enchant.

However I think flesh and stone is more OP than another 2000 energy shield.
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hitmantb wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
So I managed to fit in Flesh and Stone. Still able to gem swap for Vile Toxins and not using Conquerors Efficiency. All it took was switching to Charisma annoint and getting this unexplainably cheap helmet enchant:



While every other aura reservation is expensive as fuck, this just cost me 3ex.

Now running Hatred, Skitterbots, HoAg, Flesh and Stone and a high level Clarity while being able to use the best support gem combination for HoAg, both for clearing and for single target.

And the effect of Flesh and Stone has already become very obvious, very quickly in my relatively deep delves of 630. A ton less burst damage moments because the melee monsters are all blinded and the ranged monsters deal less damage.

At this point I'm not even sure what I would do with a Herald of Agony reduced reservation enchant. It won't be enough to use Discipline on top of Flesh and Stone. At most I could use it instead of Flesh of Stone, and would still have to keep Charisma.

Yea, thats not even close to being worth 60ex for the enchant :D


Check out my level 100 POB, double curse thanks to enfeeble glove (no need for socketed gem level) and discipline with that enchant.

However I think flesh and stone is more OP than another 2000 energy shield.


Ah right, double curse. That would be more worth it. And I just thought of another use for the HoAg enchant: Keep Flesh and Stone and use Dread Banner as a 5th aura. It is a pretty significant damage boost and will fit in on top of Flesh and Stone.

So double curse Enfeeble and Dread Banner. Both defensive and offensive boost through the enchant.
okay guys, i sold the HH and got like 100ex to spent now.

I know that i lack the empower and enlighten at the moment.
But i already level 3 of each and wait if they get to lvl 4 or not.

What other upgrades would you force now?

I think i go for double curse. Dont know wich one we should pick on the gloves tho.

I thought about the watchers eye.
So for deep delve you guys stick to flesh and stone and dont even try to go disci?

Im really a bit confused with so much currency....

I hope i respecced my tree right. Sadly my Lethal pride does not at any good stuff atm.
I played with double curse for a bit and in the end I didn't think it was worth it. It feels pretty redundant in mapping because trash never hurts you and for bosses they are very ineffective making them a lot weaker than it looks like at first.

That being said, the double curse would probably be extremely effective for deep delving but I never got around to it while I had it setup.
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Arinfaed wrote:
okay guys, i sold the HH and got like 100ex to spent now.

I know that i lack the empower and enlighten at the moment.
But i already level 3 of each and wait if they get to lvl 4 or not.

What other upgrades would you force now?

I think i go for double curse. Dont know wich one we should pick on the gloves tho.

I thought about the watchers eye.
So for deep delve you guys stick to flesh and stone and dont even try to go disci?

Im really a bit confused with so much currency....

I hope i respecced my tree right. Sadly my Lethal pride does not at any good stuff atm.


Well, getting your HoAg to level 31 would be something to focus on. Needs a wand with two +1 mods, a +1 corrupted Skin and a +1 amulet. And Empower 4 of course, but you already planned for that.

Level 31 is so important because it is a breakpoint for both attack speed (goes from 4 to 5% and physical damage gained (goes from 15 to 16%) per Virulence stack. The last breakpoint for attack speed was at level 21. So going from 30 to 31 will be a bigger boost than any 3 level gain before.

Otherwise just look at what people are doing, to find ideas for upgrades. +1 gloves, awakened minion damage, jewels with 1% reduced reservation, and so on.
Last edited by Mecielle on Jan 7, 2020, 9:20:43 AM
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Arinfaed wrote:
okay guys, i sold the HH and got like 100ex to spent now.

I know that i lack the empower and enlighten at the moment.
But i already level 3 of each and wait if they get to lvl 4 or not.

What other upgrades would you force now?


Why would you wait lol they are huge upgrades for the build... Just level them in offhands and sell them if you hit any.

And there are a lot of upgrades to work on. +2 wand, +1 corrupted skin, +1 ammy, rare belt with %attributes and str/mana/es, some kind of reservation helmet, +1 gloves and a watchers eye. You should easily be able to afford everything if you don't overpay to buy it immediately
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crazypearce wrote:
I played with double curse for a bit and in the end I didn't think it was worth it. It feels pretty redundant in mapping because trash never hurts you and for bosses they are very ineffective making them a lot weaker than it looks like at first.

That being said, the double curse would probably be extremely effective for deep delving but I never got around to it while I had it setup.


At the moment im running double curse setup with Poacher's mark in ring and Projectile Weakness gem in wand, decent option for dps variation.
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Mecielle wrote:
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PandaZeus wrote:
So.. I kinda of got the lethal pride in 2 tries LOL with minion instability and AOF both granting double block and 50% damage from blocked hits, if I assign both do I get quadraple block? LOL also sld I keep? or are there better notes to get from?


No, you only get it once. You don't roll for the keystones. Every Kiloava Lethal pride will give the double block. You roll for the stuff it gives you on the notable nodes.


yeah you can spend a lot of divines too cause I didnt know it could change it from Kilova to another LP. I hit 5% str, 20% armour, and 10% chance to intimidate and figured that was a good place to stop.

Found another spot for the same jewel that can give 60% armour, 20% reduced crit damage taken, and 20% increased fortify. I could easily make it work I would just lose the double block and would have to find a new spot for Healthy Mind so dont know if its worth it or not.
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Last edited by Thomasmgp on Jan 7, 2020, 10:38:45 AM
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Mecielle wrote:
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alpihun wrote:
Hello!

So I took the guidewriter's advice and selected this as my league starter.
/s

I'll soon finish the acts and the first 2-3 labs, but before going CI I'll need to farm about 350-400 chaos (as I quickly calculated). In the meantime, what (cheap) gear should I use?
Just random rares with life/mana/ES/attributes/resistances? Or is there some cookie cutter alternative unique to make mapping easier?

Also, which of the needed uniques can be used before full ham CI, so I purchase them first? I think I'm going to start with a cheap 40-50c, slightly offcolor skin of the loyal.


You can go CI without most of the uniques. As long as you have a Skin of the Loyal and Radiant Faith ascendancy. And maybe Shaper's Touch. They go for as low as 8c these days, I can throw you a free corrupted pair that isn't selling at 10c, just whisper me ingame.

I would go with a 4g2r, those colors are the next best thing besides the much more expensive combinations. They go for as low as 30c.

Then just grab some 1c mana, int, str and ES rares for all the other slots and you should still end up with more than enough ES for some easy currency grinding in lower tier maps.

First upgrade should be a reduced reservation Circle of Nostalgia.



Thank you again for all the help!
Hi I saw your video and you got 4 spectre how did you do that?I use the same setup lvl 21 specte on whaktuka shield and and death atunement is only give me 3 spectre did I miss something here?

Thanks

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