Zeldoon's Physical DW BM Cleave 24k/35k DPS

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HPftw wrote:

In terms of my next steps in the passive tree, I would rather go north of the templar starting area to pick up some int nodes and the inner force passive as I plan to equip the purity aura to lessen the stress of resistance requirements on gear. I would probably pick up some dps nodes down the duelist area (Blade master, or Gallantry, for example)

I would love to try out Inner Force + Catalyst, will probably try it out someday. Just not sure what I want to sacrifice for it.

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eckart wrote:

so mainly that insane dps sterms from concentrated effect + some of the best 1 handers currently on default?

I guess you could look at it that way, but only my Mainhand would be hard to duplicate, getting 2x 290-320DPS should be possible and put you close to my DPS I'd imagine. Concentrated Effect is also a big part of the DPS yes.

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Pesstrong wrote:

First of all im a noob.

But what happens if you attack physical reflect-enemies? Instant death?

Without Granite Flask or Endurance Charges It'd take me 2-3 Swings to kill myself if I hit a group of mobs?(Not willing to test this out). However with Endurance Charges I take no damage.



Side Note: Updated my first post a bit. Still incomplete.

Just got a new piece of equipment, bumped my DPS up to over 24k Unbuffed, and over 35k Buffed while in a party.

Updated front page image, however window mode quality seems to look like crap. Will update that later.

Hi there.

Nice build overal, i would change just a few points, but as you said and thats a thing everyone should understand, each build is based on each person gear and playstyle. Its nearly impossible to copy a build and work 100% the same way as the original build owner.

Another thing that everyone should understand is that late end game (high lvl maps), is very diferent than the first experience with the game, a new class, lower levels, or even mid game, personally i call "mid game" to Merciless.
Im talking about this, to make my statement about MANA users. I myself, as Zeldoon and more late game duelists dont like mana at all, thats a choice. Both versions could do the same job its also true. But i will give a good example for the people who didnt reached maps yet. There are map mods like "-50% hp and mana regen", or also "Cannot regen hp mana", where mana users are almost useless, because you need mana regen, sick mana leech and a fair good mana pool. So, to do that as a Duelist, you need to spend some points to get more mana, mana regen, and/or the new mana on kill points (wich is useless Vs a boss), while BM users just need to waste ONE single point on it.

Ok now lets see what you need to sacrifice to play with mana:

- 1 skill point in Blood Magic vs 4/5/6 points on mana buffs or even more, if you lack mana/regen/mana leech on gear.
- Zero wasted gem sockets in Blood Magic vs 1/2 wasted sockets for Mana Leech and Blood Magic Gem.

If you do the math, you also lose DPS with that gem sockets to help mana users, where you can use more damage gems instead (as Blood Magic). As mana user you can compensate with auras, BUT most of the time, you are playing in private or public groups, and someone else will share that auras aswell. So overal you lose DPS compared to Blood Magic, at least in groups.


PROS and CONS, for me:

- Mana builds waste way more passive skill points.
- There are some situations where the mana regen/leech isnt enough.
- Its way better to have good lifesteal and regen and dont care about the blue pool on the right side of the screen.


About those map mods, you can answer that you can just dodge them and alt/chaos it. Personally i really dont like to dodge challenges or block my own way in life overall. And beside that, you are making a duelist to go MAN MODE or Chicken style?

Think about that! Have a nice day, and learn by yourself, buy Regret Orbs, do your own experiences and the game will be way more entertaining ;)

Hi Zeldoon, I have few questions related to cleave/sweep and increased area of effect and concentrated effect support. I have posted it in separate thread but it did not get much attention. You also seem to have a strong opinion on Cleave support gems.

Would you ever consider using Increase Area of Effect and Concentrated Effect for Cleave at the same time?
Would you consider Amplify as a viable choice to combat reduce area and increase Cleave/Sweep damage?

Thanks

Could you inform me why you don't get the hp from the maura tree or the weap elemental damage from the templar? I was under the impression these would greatly benefit(the elemental damage) and the hp from the maura tree was to good to pass.

Mara HP nodes arent that good if you are already going for middle, or templar area, or even ranger.

In the Mara tree i just grab the Heart of Gladiator node (30HP, 20STR), Flat HP is way more important than % ones. But lets make the easy math about the number of points and the HP % profit from that.

After Heart of Gladiator, you need to waste 8 points to get 37% HP, wich isnt that much for 8 points, you can grab way more %HP with less points, or way more %HP with almost the same points as Mara.


Bellow you can check my build, mainly tanky, got 5.3k HP with really bad gear. Most of it i've been using since lvl60. Recently i just changed weapons, rings and amulet. Im lvl82 atm.



I really like to play MAN MODE on every single map so i pref way more survival than full damage.
A few days ago i used around 30 regret orbs to drop some damage and get even more HP. The max Flat HP and %HP that i could get with the less points needed for it.
Since i dont need more survival atm, even less when i replace my crap gear.. the next skill points will be for damage only. Ambidexterity, Fencing, Gallantry and Bravado.

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Baron01 wrote:

Would you ever consider using Increase Area of Effect and Concentrated Effect for Cleave at the same time?
Would you consider Amplify as a viable choice to combat reduce area and increase Cleave/Sweep damage?

I probably won't try Increased Area of Effect + Concentrated Effect.

I will try out Amplify when I get the chance, I kind of need the 10int and Radius doesn't hurt. However what most intrigues me is that 8% Area Damage, I want to know how that gets added on.

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tisch28 wrote:

Could you inform me why you don't get the hp from the maura tree or the weap elemental damage from the templar? I was under the impression these would greatly benefit(the elemental damage) and the hp from the maura tree was to good to pass.

Catalyst I will also try at some point. Once I figure out what I want to sacrifice. As for Maura tree, my reason for not going into it is the same as what sai25 stated.

EDIT: Will try to sacrifice the 3 point in Gallantry to try out the 50% Elemental from Catalyst bunch. Let you guys know how that goes later today.

@sai25 Thanks for posting, all valid points, those are the kind of post I love to see :P

Will you consider going for a blood magic gem so you can run auras once you get a six link, if you don't already?

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Pioneer2 wrote:

Will you consider going for a blood magic gem so you can run auras once you get a six link, if you don't already?

For myself at this point in Endgame I wouldn't. Because I share maps with my friends and friends invite me to their map runs. 90% of the time I get all the auras possible in the game.

If I was mainly a solo player, I would probably do it, but since I'm not I won't.

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Zeldoon wrote:

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HPftw wrote:

In terms of my next steps in the passive tree, I would rather go north of the templar starting area to pick up some int nodes and the inner force passive as I plan to equip the purity aura to lessen the stress of resistance requirements on gear. I would probably pick up some dps nodes down the duelist area (Blade master, or Gallantry, for example)

I would love to try out Inner Force + Catalyst, will probably try it out someday. Just not sure what I want to sacrifice for it.

I am concerned that Inner Force and Catalyse may not work together. Inner Force is good for buffs, which are defined here:

http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Buffs

I run couple of auras at the moment so I figured that going for Inner Force is a good choice.