Zeldoon's Physical DW BM Cleave 24k/35k DPS

Dont htink people understand that your supposed to be flexible with this and that you mention mutiple times that you know you have better then average gear so it isnt for everybody.

Posted in here to find out how you get enough int for conc. effect like which pieces of gear would you look for to get it and also to find out which gems you got +20 quality first.

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Imml wrote:

Dont htink people understand that your supposed to be flexible with this and that you mention mutiple times that you know you have better then average gear so it isnt for everybody.

Posted in here to find out how you get enough int for conc. effect like which pieces of gear would you look for to get it and also to find out which gems you got +20 quality first.

Most of my Int comes from Carnage Heart, I currently use 1x 30Int Node, and also have another 1x 10Int Node. Thats enough for my concentrated effect.


Concentrated effect IN MY OPINION is a preference, I won't sit here and tell you it's better to have it. I also don't need people to tell me its better without it. I've used Cleave with and without it for a long time. I prefer having it. All I ask is that people try both for long enough period of time, and if they still don't like concentrated effect that's fine. Perfectly fine.


I think the order I "tried" to get the quality gems in were Cleave -> MPD -> Faster Attacks -> Added Fire Damage -> Concentrated Effect. (Note I only got Quality Concentrated Effect because someone sold it really cheap ingame chat. It really doesn't do anything for me lol)

But of course finding quality MPD and Faster Attack is really hard. Especially faster attack since so many builds use it.

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Prezidento wrote:

Got a question - really good dps but i'd like to see your hp/resists, could you post some photos perhaps?

3.8k HP + 80% Elemental Resist, -13% Chaos Resistance. I'll can post screenshot later if you want.

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JudgeDuck wrote:

Does lava lash work with added fire damage? Because if it does it might be worth taking considering you pass right by it.

I tried it out before the duelist update, only added about 300~DPS, I can try it out again though and I'll let you know how much it adds.

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HPftw wrote:

OP How did you get your two fine axes? Farming maps, trading, crafting, or something else?

Glyph Rend I bought, Offhand Axe I crafted.

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Zeldoon wrote:

I really don't understand the people arguing about concentrated effect and assuming I can only hit 1 thing at a time.

Well I played ele templar (with increased aoe nodes) and phys cleave builds. its very noticeable. I d never put conc effect on cleave because it makes range tiny. It sure looks nice on DPS numbers (because its single biggest dmg support gem you can get - 70% dmg increase from that alone) but it really only tells half story.

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dark_madmax wrote:

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Zeldoon wrote:

I really don't understand the people arguing about concentrated effect and assuming I can only hit 1 thing at a time.

Well I played ele templar (with increased aoe nodes) and phys cleave builds. its very noticeable. I d never put conc effect on cleave because it makes range tiny. It sure looks nice on DPS numbers (because its single biggest dmg support gem you can get - 70% dmg increase from that alone) but it really only tells half story.

I believe its a preference and playstyle thing. I just feel the smaller range isn't a big deal for my playstyle at all, I like to leapslam and run at things. Certain circumstances more range is better, sometimes less range doesn't hurt at all. It's give and take.

The only gems I'll ever considered as required for Physical Cleave is MPD and Added Fire Damage.

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Zeldoon wrote:

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Prezidento wrote:

Got a question - really good dps but i'd like to see your hp/resists, could you post some photos perhaps?

3.8k HP + 80% Elemental Resist, -13% Chaos Resistance. I'll can post screenshot later if you want.

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JudgeDuck wrote:

Does lava lash work with added fire damage? Because if it does it might be worth taking considering you pass right by it.

I tried it out before the duelist update, only added about 300~DPS, I can try it out again though and I'll let you know how much it adds.

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HPftw wrote:

OP How did you get your two fine axes? Farming maps, trading, crafting, or something else?

Glyph Rend I bought, Offhand Axe I crafted.

Thanks! I am currently a lvl70er and trying to improve my dps (dual strike 4k, cleave 3k). Been farming A3 and maps (and also crafting) for days but it seems the dps increase is slow. What would you suggest me to improve the dps?

My passive tree:


My gear:

@HPFTW - Let's start with your weapons. You can probably find better swords on forums, 200-250DPS Physicals shouldn't cost you too much. It'll greatly increase your DPS if you can find 2 better swords.

I'm not sure how worth it is for you to be getting the Catalyse bunch(+50% Elemental). Especially since you not using added fire damage.

If you ever go for Thick Skin 2x 8% and 18% Life Nodes, there's a pretty nice DPS node over there called Fencing, worth a look.

Try swapping out your gems on Cleave and Dualstrike. Try out Melee Physical Damage + Added Fire Damage together.

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Zeldoon wrote:

@HPFTW - Let's start with your weapons. You can probably find better swords on forums, 200-250DPS Physicals shouldn't cost you too much. It'll greatly increase your DPS if you can find 2 better swords.

I'm not sure how worth it is for you to be getting the Catalyse bunch(+50% Elemental). Especially since you not using added fire damage.

If you ever go for Thick Skin 2x 8% and 18% Life Nodes, there's a pretty nice DPS node over there called Fencing, worth a look.

Try swapping out your gems on Cleave and Dualstrike. Try out Melee Physical Damage + Added Fire Damage together.

Realized that, like D3, trading with other players is a fast way to get upgrades.

I took the Catalyse bunch because I thought those nodes could work together with the weapon elemental damage gem. And, one of my swords has some portion of elemental damage (lightning). Correct me if I am wrong.

Perhaps the added fire gem you mentioned also can work with the elemental damage boost?

In terms of my next steps in the passive tree, I would rather go north of the templar starting area to pick up some int nodes and the inner force passive as I plan to equip the purity aura to lessen the stress of resistance requirements on gear. I would probably pick up some dps nodes down the duelist area (Blade master, or Gallantry, for example)

so mainly that insane dps sterms from concentrated effect + some of the best 1 handers currently on default?

First of all im a noob.

But what happens if you attack physical reflect-enemies? Instant death?