Cyclone

has anybody even actually tested cyclone in maps/high lvl maps?

its pointless to test it in ledge or other low lvl area.

imho, the skill is _not_ useable in maps. its totally suicidal ...

I tested it at level 65 in a level 66 and 67 maps, I was doing great.

But like aimlessgun said, that's the desync which holds back the skill.

To be honest, I'm not really sure if the skill increases the chance to get desync'd. I get a lot of desync, and sometimes I'm only walking...
But it doesn't help when you get stuck near a wall. Sometimes you're still stuck on the wall on the server, even if you moved away.
And if the desync happens while you're in the middle of a pack, it can be a problem.

Like I said, I made a cyclone character for the one week race, I'm currently farming Merc Fellshrines. It works. And it's not suicidal at all, it's even safer using this skill IMO.

My current weapon was good when I found it (Cruel Sarn Slums), but it starts getting outdated, I need to find a better one.

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exorzist wrote:

has anybody even actually tested cyclone in maps/high lvl maps?

its pointless to test it in ledge or other low lvl area.

imho, the skill is _not_ useable in maps. its totally suicidal ...

Me doing a 105% temple map, mods include elemental weakness and +35% monster damage. The only time I come close to dying is when FRAPS hits me with a period of 5fps.

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Drahken wrote:

uh that's crap.

Can you explain how? Cyclone has 40% damage effectiveness and hits twice, for a total effectiveness of 80% per cycle. Cleave has 70% effectiveness. Are you saying that the numbers are incorrect or bugged? Cyclone feels like it kills things too fast for that to be the case.

I feel as though cyclone's damage is far too low considering the risks involved. At max level all it offers is a measly 104% damage and 30% IAS all the while requiring me to be in the middle of the fray, losing complete control over my character just to deal some damage. Other skills (even melee skills) offer much lower risk while giving much, MUCH higher damage possibilities all the while remaining safe.

i'm willing to bet most ppl who complain about the "risk" of cyclone are just not running the right kind of build.

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waffenheimer wrote:

i'm willing to bet most ppl who complain about the "risk" of cyclone are just not running the right kind of build.

Well this is my tentative Build Plan I'm currently @ 64 and heading for static blows. I do well enough but it's certainly slowing down(Gear, I just don't have great or even decent gear lol) it's the desyncs that scare the shit out of me and why I don't want to deal with it sometimes lol. Gear garbage below. If you happen to see anything more efficient in that build would love to hear, I have lots of respec's available so anything better is good news. I may well spec out of BM eventually but for now it's just so much easier for me with limited equip's etc.

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Teflondon1975 wrote:

If you happen to see anything more efficient in that build would love to hear, I have lots of respec's available so anything better is good news.

This saves you 3 points :)

2 things that drive me insane using cyclone as a primary attack in a build:
1) you can't pick items up while cycloning from point A to B, so you end up losing a lot of items to the cutthroat loot system since you can't stop to grab them.
2) the 'steering' is remarkably bad- I'm constantly going well past where I clicked, and if you hold the mouse down in an attempt to continuously attack (like anything else), you just pinball around seemingly at random.

Why can't cyclone work like an inverted arctic armor? You turn it on, and it drains mana at X/sec if you're standing still and Y/sec if you're moving? And please, for a simple quality of life fix, make it so we can pick items up provided we're in range while mid-cyclone. We can already use flasks so I don't see it as too much of a stretch...

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aimlessgun wrote:

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Teflondon1975 wrote:

If you happen to see anything more efficient in that build would love to hear, I have lots of respec's available so anything better is good news.

This saves you 3 points :)

That's great, thanks. No idea why I didn't look at going along the edge before =/ haha. Thanks!

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Teflondon1975 wrote:

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waffenheimer wrote:

i'm willing to bet most ppl who complain about the "risk" of cyclone are just not running the right kind of build.

Well this is my tentative Build Plan I'm currently @ 64 and heading for static blows. I do well enough but it's certainly slowing down(Gear, I just don't have great or even decent gear lol) it's the desyncs that scare the shit out of me and why I don't want to deal with it sometimes lol. Gear garbage below. If you happen to see anything more efficient in that build would love to hear, I have lots of respec's available so anything better is good news. I may well spec out of BM eventually but for now it's just so much easier for me with limited equip's etc.
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well... I can see a problem in your build...
you went full elemental, you didn't even bother taking the 2% life leech passive, why?
I have enough LL with this point, but I'm full physical so...
The LL gem is nice, but that's one slot less for a dps gem...

But I'm kinda in the same boat, I think you really need Blind with a 2H weapon, and I'm also using enduring cry. It's less a problem with a shield.

Here's my gears:



I also use Blood Rage with 6 frenzy charges when things are easy.


@aimlessgun: really cool video btw, your character packs some punch :)