Cyclone

Doing maps 70+ Maps at level 80+. Why should/would I use this over Ground Slam?

Ground Slam;
3 Times the damage
Much large AoE, you hit every mob in that AoE
You deal damage safely from afar
Nice Stunlock on large masses of minor mobs

Cyclone;
Horrendous damage
Life Leech and Life on Hit basicly does not work with it at all
Forces you to do a snail kamikaze dive into packs of potentially lethal mobs

What are the real pro's of Cyclone, I want to like this skill. Its cool and fun, just so bad.

The reason I feel this skill sucks is because on my lvl 70 dual claw shadow it does suck. Vry low dmg, moves too slow, can't cancelitcan't steer once started, and oh yeh Crap damage. They did not deliver on the promise to give melee a valid aoe..esp not comcompared to ranged and non claw users.

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killer78ii wrote:

Could cyclone be changed so that you can alternate the direction you're going in, i find this a huge drawback and had a few near death experiences because of not being able to stop or change direction while cycloning.

I haven't been able to do it intentionally, but there are times when I whirl through a group of monsters, and the cyclone automatically comes back for a second pass - sometimes directly back and sometimes to the side. When it did it, it was as if the cyclone skill were behaving like a chained projectile.


It doesn't wipe out monsters as fast as my main skill does for each monster, but it seems to do a good job of clearing out 2/3 of the pack and then I can switch to an single target attack to finish the rest off - overall its faster.

Main single target skill is about 6150 dps

plain vanilla attack (no skill) about 1591, cyclone drops it to about 1000.

with lvl 15 added fire dmg, melee phys dmg, and faster attacks, cyclone shows as doing 2441 dmg.


I can't compare whether it is as effective as similar level cleave, ground slam or leap attack as my characters with those skills were all low or mid level in closed beta, and just starting to work up melee character now.

For me, its not just whether the skill is the most powerful one, its whether it is viable and fun.

So far cyclone is fun and worthwhile.

Well using blood rage, with tempest shield and using aoe support gem with faster attacks and life on hit.

I don't have a problem with cyclone.

Only thing I face atm is the deysinc issue, that most are facing.

The tool tip shows I'm doing low damage but I'm clearing docks faster than I used to with flicker.

Maybe tooltip not showing full value of damage done...

Maybe its the combo effect of tempest shield with cyclone = lightning damage + phy damage etc...

Wow this thread quickly became the longest one in the beta skill feedback subforum!

I really wanted to like this skill since it is now the only AOE I have with my facebreaker build. Honestly, I do more AOE damage by weapon swapping to a 2H and ground slamming or leap slamming while also having better survivability and maneuverability. I'd rather not have to worry about that and just have a viable skill, but cyclone in its current form does not work.

Just some food for thought.

I always felt Leap Slam to be a bit clunky to rely only on it as a main DPS skill (like Kripp's build in the 1 week race).

It's a lot better with Cylone as support. Jump in, Cyclone out, jump back in...
It's a lot more mobile than Leap Slam + Sweep for example, mobs have a lot more trouble to hit you.

Cyclone is a lot safer, even if the damage is a bit low.

Also, try to target walls if you want to stop Cyclone sooner.

Cyclone seems to be capped to 2 hits per spin which makes it terrible for aoe. It needs to be able to hit every mob in range to work as a proper aoe ability.

i feel kinda dissapointed :(

here is why:

- can't change path when u already clicked the position where to spin
- to few hits on target while cyclonin ... the name suggests its a huge spiny force and the current state of cyclone doesn't feel forcefull at all... its like a weak wind that goes through and barely touches enemies
- another elemental aoe skill ? seems much better for elemental than physical again.
- lack of feelin secure while usin it on hardcore due to desyncs

kodr: or I can just do leap slam twice and everything will be down :-D Correctly specced leap slam have even higher DPS than Sweep :-) and is absolutely safe and its the best part :D

It has higher single target dps, dont just look at the tool tip, that is shit
LL works perfect on it for me

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Snowflake85 wrote:

Doing maps 70+ Maps at level 80+. Why should/would I use this over Ground Slam?

Ground Slam;
3 Times the damage
Much large AoE, you hit every mob in that AoE
You deal damage safely from afar
Nice Stunlock on large masses of minor mobs

Cyclone;
Horrendous damage
Life Leech and Life on Hit basicly does not work with it at all
Forces you to do a snail kamikaze dive into packs of potentially lethal mobs

What are the real pro's of Cyclone, I want to like this skill. Its cool and fun, just so bad.