Is it true that physical damage on gear isn't increased by % mods?

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SVD wrote:

the same holds true for elder power (phys dmg on wands). no increase whatsoever so my dualwield witch is on hold until this bug is fixed

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Velkor wrote:

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Ksielvin wrote:

Haven't found increased phys (from passive or gem) to affect added phys from non-weapons (which I think is a balance issue) but increased projectile does. Kraityn's increased phys reward also might.

How about weapon-specific passives ? Maces/Bows, etc. And how about skill and support gems ?

This is an important question. An answer from someone from ggg would be nice.

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koticgood wrote:

It's interesting that the general consensus is that physical damage from gear doesn't scale. If it's true, it's not reflected in the tooltip or character sheet, as equipping a white iron ring increases my heavy strike dps by 33.

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Ksielvin wrote:

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Velkor wrote:

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Ksielvin wrote:

Haven't found increased phys (from passive or gem) to affect added phys from non-weapons (which I think is a balance issue) but increased projectile does. Kraityn's increased phys reward also might.

How about weapon-specific passives ? Maces/Bows, etc. And how about skill and support gems ?

This is an important question. An answer from someone from ggg would be nice.

The passive I specifically tested was "increased physical damage with bow". I will assume same applies to other weapon-specific passives though I haven't checked about "increased melee physical damage". "Increased projectile" works as I said. You can derive the character sheet numbers ingame without developer help. They have answered a lot of questions over time that have enabled and helped people do this and it helps us spot bugs.

I already mentioned that similar bonus from skill gem didn't work. The one I tested was 9% from lvl 4 Burning Arrow. I will assume this holds true for others until I find a case where I cannot reproduce the dps value.

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koticgood wrote:

It's interesting that the general consensus is that physical damage from gear doesn't scale. If it's true, it's not reflected in the tooltip or character sheet, as equipping a white iron ring increases my heavy strike dps by 33.

Sorry but I see no such consensus in the thread and that's very misleading to say. I think everybody was speaking about character sheet numbers since few people would take the time to setup combat tests without a combat log.

Just one bonus type isn't applied to the iron ring's physical damage. As you can see from dps going up, there are still many types that can be used to scale the dmg.

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koticgood wrote:

The whole point of this thread is that several people, including Invalesco, say that physical damage from non-weapon sources is not scaled, but the character sheet/tooltip reflects that it is. And I'm trying to figure out if it is a case like Bear Trap, where cast speed changed the casting time in the tooltip, but didn't in practice, or if people are just mistaken and physical damage does scale.

Could you clarify what exactly your point is? o_O

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Ksielvin wrote:

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koticgood wrote:

The whole point of this thread is that several people, including Invalesco, say that physical damage from non-weapon sources is not scaled, but the character sheet/tooltip reflects that it is. And I'm trying to figure out if it is a case like Bear Trap, where cast speed changed the casting time in the tooltip, but didn't in practice, or if people are just mistaken and physical damage does scale.

Could you clarify what exactly your point is? o_O

You said consensus was something that it isn't. Iron ring damage does scale, just not with everything one would expect.

Until otherwise stated, everybody else is working based on UI numbers as well. Until otherwise stated, they are not saying the UI is incorrect in this case. To find the difference in the details, I named the specific bonus types I tested in the previous post. It's perfectly possible that the increased melee phys dmg (from strength) works. You should believe in your own numbers.

If you're worried about what Invalesco said, perhaps you should find it again and read the exact context and wording. "Something in some thread" doesn't help people help you.

EDIT: I went on my marauder who has +58% increased melee phys from strength and +31% increased phys with maces and equipped an iron ring (1-4 added phys). His default attack minimum damage went up by 1 and maximum damage by 4, completely ignoring the increased phys bonuses as I expected. No other related bonuses were involved. (These are the numbers on character sheet and attack tooltip.)

Have you actually worked out how your heavy strike damage is calculated? There are lots of things that still scale iron ring dps: attack speed, crits, damage effectiveness and multipliers from support gems for example.