worthless standtard roa garbage guide

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SolusCoda wrote:

Sorry for the delay in replying, I've been busy enjoying the new patch : )

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Pam wrote:

I had no idea about this node, thanks a lot for the feedback
I'll add you to the op if you want

Sure, you can add it if you'd like.

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Do you mind showing your gear and how everything is linked?

I can do that:

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I run five auras : Haste, Wrath, Anger, Clarity, and Hatred. Clarity and anger are BMed. I use molten shell-inc duration-blood magic-frost wall in a 4l for defense backup and two bear traps for additional single target damage and kiting. I usually use added fire with it, but I gave it to my alt for now.

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Galaxy wrote:

How do you sustain the mana cost? Surely it must be really high

I should note that I am using a 4L without WED. The mana cost of my totem is a mere 82, which is actually extremely low for totem users. Using clarity and a few mana regen items I can easily spam totems so even if they die constantly (which rarely happens, due to the hp nodes)

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krizigu wrote:

Hi SolusCoda

I am very eager to try your dual totem RoA build and actually I have implemented some changes in my char in SC in order to try out how it will play in high end content.

Problems that I have met so far are:

- mana efficiency. Cost of my totem is 75 per each at the moment with useable mana pool of 165, I am not casting anything else than totems from mana pool anyways having everything else linked to BM gems; I have tried using clarity but so far it's hard to tell if it will be sufficient enough;
- no regen maps seem undoable for this build (please verify according to your experience);

So my questions are:

- what auras do you run? (I currently use Wrath/Grace/Anger out of HP and Clarity/Haste from mana pool
- how do you deal with fast-dying totems issue and with totem stuns?


Thanks in advance for your reply, hope to see some feedback from your side :).

Best regards,
krizigu

With clarity, I have 50 mana regen a second and my totems cost 82 as mentioned above, making it extremely easy to spam them with no issues. I reserve all but 125 of my mana (out of 500) and have no issues cursing constantly and spamming totems in the enemies' face. I suggest you grab the 8% elem node and the 40% regen node by the templar after the AoE if you use a similar build to what I showed until you can offset it with regen on gear.

I definitely cannot do no regen maps but this is a problem almost all totem users share since we cannot mana or life leech.

See above for auras and for fast dying totems, I suggest you ensure you are using the highest level totem possible. If your skill isn't lvl 18-20 it will be killed in maps quickly. I suggest buying one preleveled if you cant level it yourself. The skill level determines the totem health. If, for example pre-patch catacombs ice mages freeze and break them, constantly recast them in different positions. The easiest way to get your totems killed is to recast them in the line of fire of spells that the enemy is already firing. You should be recasting totems on this build often anyway since you need to position them next to the enemy for maximum damage.

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0rochi wrote:

i tried out ranged attk totem with roa previously, couldnt get it to work well.

1.) totems die too quickly vs the usual mage type or reflect enemies or multi projectile enemies ( the usual bane of any totem user), but unlike witch maurs dont have the regen to cast totems repeatedly.

2.) when enemies are spread out, roa totem is horribly inefficient in targetting and hitting. unlike spells like EK / FP when it hits everything in close range, or lmp/gmp firebal /icespear or fork spark etcetc. targetting is a huge issue for me, even with a lot of increased radius.

3.) dps is simply lacklustre compared to other forms of totems. and it's not any safer.

so far what worked best for me was to gather a huge mob n then just kill everything in melee range with chin sol. totems couldnt do that for me. i like the idea of roa totems, i just couldnt get it to work as well as i theorycrafted and ended up ditching it.

1. See above. My totems don't have many issues dieing, especially to reflect. sounds like a lower level totem. I am a Mara and I have 50 regen/s with clarity, which is plenty for me.

2.it sounds like you didn't invest in any increased aoe nodes. The totems naturally target the closest enemy to them, which is exactly what you want them to do to take advantage of point blank and chin sol. With increased aoe from passives, they can wipe out packs without much multitargeting.

3. Not sure how you can say it isn't safer. I rarely ever even get hit. Totems are always safer than trying to get near enemies yourself to take advantage of point blank. with just a 4L, my aoe DPS is 8500 (4.25k each totem) next to the totems without including bear traps. It melts through lunaris 3 and maps easily. I can essentially continually walk forward, staggering my totems in front of me without slowing down too much. Your results may vary depending on gear, auras, and skills. When I do finally 5L my chin sol, I expect around 12k dps from totems alone. But keep in mind, this number is only next to them so it will be a bit lower on average depending on your totem positioning skills.

On inner force: if you are running over 4 auras, I think it is still worth it unless you have to make a skillgramige. I run 5 auras so inner force helps immensely still. (not to mention potions) Also, I'm right next to it.

I should also mention knockback from chin sol. With a fast enough attack speed, melee enemies do not reach your totems, making them last much longer. It's really fantastic, especially with inc. aoe. a single shot can knockback a whole pack.

Phew! That's alot of words. Hope I cleared up the questions!

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SolusCoda wrote:

1. See above. My totems don't have many issues dieing, especially to reflect. sounds like a lower level totem. I am a Mara and I have 50 regen/s with clarity, which is plenty for me.

2.it sounds like you didn't invest in any increased aoe nodes. The totems naturally target the closest enemy to them, which is exactly what you want them to do to take advantage of point blank and chin sol. With increased aoe from passives, they can wipe out packs without much multitargeting.

3. Not sure how you can say it isn't safer. I rarely ever even get hit. Totems are always safer than trying to get near enemies yourself to take advantage of point blank. with just a 4L, my aoe DPS is 8500 (4.25k each totem) next to the totems without including bear traps. It melts through lunaris 3 and maps easily. I can essentially continually walk forward, staggering my totems in front of me without slowing down too much. Your results may vary depending on gear, auras, and skills. When I do finally 5L my chin sol, I expect around 12k dps from totems alone. But keep in mind, this number is only next to them so it will be a bit lower on average depending on your totem positioning skills.

On inner force: if you are running over 4 auras, I think it is still worth it unless you have to make a skillgramige. I run 5 auras so inner force helps immensely still. (not to mention potions) Also, I'm right next to it.

I should also mention knockback from chin sol. With a fast enough attack speed, melee enemies do not reach your totems, making them last much longer. It's really fantastic, especially with inc. aoe. a single shot can knockback a whole pack.

Phew! That's alot of words. Hope I cleared up the questions!

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Pam wrote:

Carcass Jack is a crazy good unique for RoA, whilst the aoe added isn't visual, it's a significant difference.
It has some evasion (if you're AR/Acro), some res and a bit of life whereas the totem chest is bad in every aspect.
My bad experience from totems might come from little to no adaptation from my regular gameplay where I run into contact since I'm point blank, and I can see how adding bear trap to the mix would make it really powerful, it doesn't seem like you've pushed your character into really hard content where the weaknesses start to show so.
Still an interesting read either way, thanks again for sharing.

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Pholos wrote:

First : Did you update exilepro guide?
Second : You should rewrite the guide.There's no explanations.What gems should we use and skill tree for ex: level 10,Level 20... and What should we have in our gears?

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SolusCoda wrote:

Orochi, Totems aren't for everyone. Sounds like it just isn't your playstyle. I prefer the safety of totems / frost wall against monsters and desync. After losing my last 80 to a massive unavoidable desync issue I went with totems as they always know where the enemy is. Not sure about your issues with reflect maps. I've never had my totems die to reflect, but I resummon them constantly even without them dying to reposition them and they are both elem and phys damage, so perhaps thats why. I'm also speaking from a point of view with +64% radius in aoe so I really can't sympathize with your targeting issues, they don't really exist with a large enough radius (keep in mind, it's radius so even those 4% nodes increase the area by 8%)

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SolusCoda wrote:

Either way, sounds like you don't like it and thats fine. I'm just letting people know it is very feasible and powerful. I've played ice spear and spork totemers as well and I prefer this character (though spork is better, its impossible to beat it. I just hate the screen clutter)

The best solution would be for me to make a video showing it, but that would really be alot of work... Soooo that probably won't happen.

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SolusCoda wrote:

As to the spidersilk robe, I have one and I've been playing with a tri ice spear build on an alt, but with roa it would never work because of how good carcass jack is, and how often you resummon your totems. Also: you basically need to use surgeons and ice spear yourself to refill all your wardings, as totems crit does not count. I prefer to spend my time bear trapping and resummoning totems.

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SolusCoda wrote:

I went for survivability over damage, and my gear isn't the best so getting res tech instead of crit was a better choice for me.

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SolusCoda wrote:

Edit: I should make it clear, I'm not saying RoA totem is more powerful than straight damage / leech focused RoA builds, but still feasible and strong and safer (disclaimer: have not tried super high maps). : )


I should also mention that if you have problems with your totems die from LMP spells and such, try this neat little trick : Cast frost wall on your totems. Most spells will bounce off. if you position it appropriately you can even keep them in close range of the enemy by stacking the wall directly on the totems.