ICE WITCH GUIDE (CI + FREEZING PULSE with LIFE LEECH 0.25 Cast Spd Per Pulse.)

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Xmu wrote:

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mojoz wrote:

Yes, but I think also the faster cast impact on tooltip DPS doesn't account for the ancillary benefits of chance to freeze (more casts = more chance to crit = more chance to freeze, or shock in the case of lightning). Mind you, same holds true for the qual bonus from added light dmg.

Xmu - have you tried to run/adapt this build without mana leech, relying on regen on gear/nodes? Sacrificing a gem slot for mana leech is so frustrating.

It all comes down to your cast spd. If your FP is 0.32 which is easy to get then u will be shooting 3x per second. In my case, when i run a lvl 18FP + fast cast + life leech + crit dmg + LMP, my mana is at 62x 4 pulse pr sec which is 248. But if i were to switch out the Mana leech for another dmg gem then that would increase that number.

My mana pool is only 872 and when i run both aura, im left with 425 Mana which only allows me to spam pulse for 3 sec or less and i would run out. Constant using mana pots cant keep up either b/c i tested that before. I rather use mana leech and think of it as dps because u were be stopping ur FP to regain mana. Also being at full mana allows me to easily place my ice spear totem around and my summons if i need them.

Now lets say if i were to use FP + Added lightning dmg + crit dmg + life leech + fast cast and LMP, that would put me in a 90x4 which is 360 mana and my total is 425 mana. That is almost impossible to keep up the FP casting. Even if your cast spd is at 0.32 which is 3 shot, that would still be 90x3 which is 270 mana. Somehow you will have to get regen for 270 mana per second and i would just prefer the mana leech in my case.

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Spau wrote:

Guys are you using vaal pact?

my current build doesnt have vaal pact b/c im using the 0.25 cast spd one atm.

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pokekas wrote:

hi are you using frenzy too? and the other one buff i dont know what it is?

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mrpetrov wrote:

There are 22% of reduced mana cost nodes which are pretty easily available - that's what I use on my 5L spark setup to brining the mana cost down to about 170 per second.

P.

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PePsITwIsT wrote:

Xmu, saw a few of the threads where you advocate cast speed over spell damage for freezing pulse. Why aren't you recommending getting the 4% cast speed reward in your guide? If passive points are a problem, wouldn't taking the 4% cast speed (since cast speed benefit is linear) be better than 10% spell damage at the start of the shadow tree.

Thanks for your analysis of fast cast. It was really helpful.

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PePsITwIsT wrote:

Do you think the 4% cs from bandit quest > 10% spell damage node at the very beginning of the shadow tree? Not sure if I can get good spell damage wands with high cast speed, so was wondering if I should get the 4% cs reward and not take the 10% sd passive. If 4% cs < 10% sd DPS-wise, I'll take my chances and try to find better wands. Wands 85%+ sd and 14%+ cs are going for over 2exalts each..

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Xmu wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

There are 22% of reduced mana cost nodes which are pretty easily available - that's what I use on my 5L spark setup to brining the mana cost down to about 170 per second.

P.

I dont see why ur trying to compare FP with spark, its 2 different skill.

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mrpetrov wrote:

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Xmu wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

There are 22% of reduced mana cost nodes which are pretty easily available - that's what I use on my 5L spark setup to brining the mana cost down to about 170 per second.

P.

I dont see why ur trying to compare FP with spark, its 2 different skill.

Hi Xmu - the only relevance between the two is the mana cost comparison. Spark has a base mana cost of 28 at level 19, FP has a base mana cost of 23 at the same level.

The humble suggestion I had was that if you get the 22% RMC nodes then you could link up your FP to a 5L and not need any mana leech as long as you can keep your mana regen at *about* 140/second. To give people an idea how easy it is to reach 150/second, you only need total mana regen % of about 220%, which is really quite easy to reach. This would allow you to run a Cold Penetration Gem, Crit Damage or Added Lightning Damage gem, for example - instead of mana leech.

Anyway, just something to think about.

P.

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PePsITwIsT wrote:

Do you think the 4% cs from bandit quest > 10% spell damage node at the very beginning of the shadow tree? Not sure if I can get good spell damage wands with high cast speed, so was wondering if I should get the 4% cs reward and not take the 10% sd passive. If 4% cs < 10% sd DPS-wise, I'll take my chances and try to find better wands. Wands 85%+ sd and 14%+ cs are going for over 2exalts each..