ICE WITCH GUIDE (CI + FREEZING PULSE with LIFE LEECH 0.25 Cast Spd Per Pulse.)

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Xmu wrote:

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sm0ke52 wrote:

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confessions721 wrote:

I notice you don't have this build in your original post. Wondering how effect you feel this build is compared to your others. Static Blow seems to be a pretty good skill to take as long as you don't have to go very far to attain it. I'm just wondering if your crit ever gets high enough where having the added lightning damage will be good enough to apply the shock debuff. Or will have static blow really help enough to make it so you get at least 1 stack on all mobs before they die. 40% per stack seems pretty good to pass up.

I understand that this build is quite flexible and you can go a variety of routes. I'm just wondering how the static blow route compares to the other builds. If it might be more worth just going with increase crit chance or increase crit damage gem instead of added lightning damage gem.

Static blow is very nice to have but it is not needed if you have a high crit and a 20% added lightning gem. Here is how it works :

you should be able to land at least 3x pulse per sec with 0.32 cast spd (easy to get) and lets say your crit is 34%, this will let u stack once with shock. So if your hitting a target that takes more than 3 sec then ur bound to cap ur 3x shock on him and ur shock duration only has to last 1 sec (although there is no way of telling).

Now u asked that mobs die b4 u can even apply 3 shock then ur wrong. In a party of 6 players, the mobs have so much hps which would require alot of hits, especially the magic mobs and rare mobs + very good against boss.

Only backdraw in using added light dmg gem is that u need a decent crit chance % for it to be effective.

Yeah even with decent crit chance, I figure having static blow can possibly increase your kill speed, even if you're soloing and not partying (I plan on doing both). I'm just curious to see what kind of numbers (too bad there isn't a dps parser in this game) added lightning damage does compared to the other damage support gems. I'm a fan of stacking shock as my main is a Lightning Arrow Ranger.

I know in your post you stated you change your support gem depending on the situation. In what situation do you feel you use added lightning? added chaos? cold pen? crit dmg/chance? Or are there times you stack even 2 of these added damage support gems?

in your final built you got elemental adaption why m8?

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Static blow is very nice to have but it is not needed if you have a high crit and a 20% added lightning gem.

Might be worth adding that non-quality Added Lightning is probably not worth it. When you crit, only the Lightning damage component goes towards the shock, and this needs to be above a certain threshold based on teh target's life, or the shock does not happen. I tried it for a while and ended up feeling that trying to get Shock going as well as freeze was diluting the build. I ended up removing the Lighting component and just boosting my Cold damage (eg with Penetration) to maximise the freeze time. (EDIT: This was without Static Blows as I was too far away from that passive)

You should already have something like 2000 to 2500 (x3) dps at least on your endgame Pulse, and considerably more than that from a critting Ice Spear, and more again from your Totem. That is plenty for Maps and will one- or two-shot most mobs. Given most enemies are frozen anyway, you should be fine.

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Xmu wrote:

If you dont have a spell totem with ice spear then i suggest u make that your main goal for now. All u need is to place the totem to provide backup when u face alot of mobs.

Buying 4L items is very easy, just say WTB 4L ES item. The price for these is only 1 alchemy.
If you buy a white 4L then use alchemy on it to make it rare.

Another thing is to make sure you are using INT items to get the most ES out of it.

I got the spell totem today with ice spear and LMP and it's making an amazing difference. My resists also were pretty low, so getting them above 40% made a huge difference as well.

I also got a 4L chest piece, but I've realized that I don't actually have 4 things to put in it. I've got FP with MLP and Added Crit, but I don't have any other gems to put into it. My mana efficiency is fairly low, I can get away with it if I just run Clarity, but if I try to put on Discipline as well I'm out of mana almost immediately. A 4th link is probably going to bury me.

Without access to a Reduced Mana or Mana Leach gem, is there anything I can do to improve efficiency? I'm following your passive tree, just starting on the "mid game" one now, and there's a lot of int on the rail I'm on now, but probably not enough to overcome what I'm seeing. Do I just need more int on my gear? I think I've got +63 int right now (not sure my total, can't get in game right now) I might be able to change some things around to get some more.

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Eatsblood wrote:

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Xmu wrote:

If you dont have a spell totem with ice spear then i suggest u make that your main goal for now. All u need is to place the totem to provide backup when u face alot of mobs.

Buying 4L items is very easy, just say WTB 4L ES item. The price for these is only 1 alchemy.
If you buy a white 4L then use alchemy on it to make it rare.

Another thing is to make sure you are using INT items to get the most ES out of it.

I got the spell totem today with ice spear and LMP and it's making an amazing difference. My resists also were pretty low, so getting them above 40% made a huge difference as well.

I also got a 4L chest piece, but I've realized that I don't actually have 4 things to put in it. I've got FP with MLP and Added Crit, but I don't have any other gems to put into it. My mana efficiency is fairly low, I can get away with it if I just run Clarity, but if I try to put on Discipline as well I'm out of mana almost immediately. A 4th link is probably going to bury me.

Without access to a Reduced Mana or Mana Leach gem, is there anything I can do to improve efficiency? I'm following your passive tree, just starting on the "mid game" one now, and there's a lot of int on the rail I'm on now, but probably not enough to overcome what I'm seeing. Do I just need more int on my gear? I think I've got +63 int right now (not sure my total, can't get in game right now) I might be able to change some things around to get some more.

The cheapest way to solve your stun problem: spell totem + summon skeleton. Highly recommended for beginners that lack decent gear.
If you don't have quality (at least 12%) on your FP you really really need faster projectiles. Gives you much more range. Otherwise you are forced to go near the mobs, which is not recommended with shitty gear.

On a sidenote: If you just started a few days ago and this is your first char, this build might be a bit too ambitious, as you will need pretty expensive gear to reach those 0.25 dps. For a first char i would recommend you concentrate on the affordable lifesaving stuff: ES, critchance and life (if you don't take CI). They come without secondary costs like castspeed which can screw up your mana management and forces you to take extra manareg nodes or buy gear with mana/manareg stats. You should therefor wait with all that speedstuff until you are level65+ AND have some exalts worth of currency. Otherwise you will run into a wall.

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confessions721 wrote:

Yeah even with decent crit chance, I figure having static blow can possibly increase your kill speed, even if you're soloing and not partying (I plan on doing both). I'm just curious to see what kind of numbers (too bad there isn't a dps parser in this game) added lightning damage does compared to the other damage support gems. I'm a fan of stacking shock as my main is a Lightning Arrow Ranger.

I know in your post you stated you change your support gem depending on the situation. In what situation do you feel you use added lightning? added chaos? cold pen? crit dmg/chance? Or are there times you stack even 2 of these added damage support gems?

I only use one of these support dps gem. If you read the Pros and Cons about each gem then u should know how to adapt depending on mods on a map.

Usually right now, i run added chaos dmg in most maps since mobs with elemental resist does not affect it. But if i enter a map and see mobs that resist chaos dmg then i would swap for lightning dmg.

If u plan to use cold pene then u will have flat increased dps and benefit from most situation but u wouldnt be able to swap between other gems unless u want to waste xxx amount of chromatics.

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Spau wrote:

in your final built you got elemental adaption why m8?

This is important as u progress in the game at higher lvls. You would want to avoid deaths which can make u grind for countless hrs again, so with more defense = less death.

Now why is 5% Max Resistance important? Math time.
Default max resist is capped at 75% so that means u take 25% Elemental damage.
Now with Inner Force + Purity + Elemental Adaption = +10% To Max resist
This brings you to a total of 85% Resistance. So previously u were taking 25% Dmg but now u took 10% out of that which result in 15% dmg from Elemental hits.

Now look closely at the numbers. By getting 10% Max resistance, ur not reducing dmg by only 10% more. The actual dmg reduction is close to 40%.

Simple example can be like this:
100 damage dealt with 75% resist is reduced to 25 dmg.
100 damage dealt with 85% resist is reduced to 15 dmg.

Now compare 25 dmg and 15 dmg and tell me if that isnt alot of reduction. Those are small figures im using as example but u will have to think about when u get hit hard.

Noob question, this works on Hardcore?! I started a witch now, and i am trying this :D !

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Sygion wrote:

Noob question, this works on Hardcore?! I started a witch now, and i am trying this :D !

CI build is inferior to HP build in HC but its up to u whether u want to try or not,

Hello im lv 70 now and want to start farming map.

But when i started farming i feel that a mob with cold res or ele res is hard to kill

especiall with ES!!!!

seems my FP dps too low. Only 1400 with GMP,and my ES is 2900.

So i backed farming dock now.

i used fp+gmp+iir+iiq+mana leech to farm dock

its easy but must be careful without life leech.

Here's my passive


ill chage CI when i farming map and change Pain Attunement to farm Dock.

And my gear


i wear the rare boots when i farming map.

Any good advice for me?

Thanks for your reading.

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Irvine1031 wrote:

Hello im lv 70 now and want to start farming map.

But when i started farming i feel that a mob with cold res or ele res is hard to kill

especiall with ES!!!!

seems my FP dps too low. Only 1400 with GMP,and my ES is 2900.

So i backed farming dock now.

i used fp+gmp+iir+iiq+mana leech to farm dock

its easy but must be careful without life leech.

Here's my passive

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Passive skill tree build

ill chage CI when i farming map and change Pain Attunement to farm Dock.

And my gear

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i wear the rare boots when i farming map.

Any good advice for me?

Thanks for your reading.

You are doing fine right now. The mobs with cold resist will be alot easier when u get access to a 6L chest. Just farm docks for now to build some currency. Dont worry about your dps for now, its pretty decent. You will get alot more dps when your freezing pulse reach a higher lvl.

I would try to upgrade the chest that you have to something with 400+ ES, so u can have more ES and be more safe to take on maps. Just take it slowly and enjoy the game.