Donald Trump and US politics

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diablofdb wrote:

Just imagine how the would go nuts if the shooter was a Trump supporter.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

Terrorism events are extremely rare compared to the amount of indivuals on the planet, compared to mass shooting. Heck, some of those mass shooting are considered act of terrorism and go in both category.

I bet the US has more mass shooting than there's act of terrorism world wide.

Really? There have been 1,151 terrorist kills in the last 19 days, that's 60.58 per day which would be over 22,000 in a year. Before you say anything about this month being special, let's look at the total number of people killed by terrorists in 2015 (Using that number since the 2016 Crime in the US data isn't available yet for comparison)

Terrorism 27,594

How does that compare with US shooting deaths (mass and otherwise)

There were 15,696 total murders and non-negligent manslaughter in the U.S. (counting all 50 states, plus Guam and the Virgin Islands). 71% of those deaths involved fire arms which leaves us with 11,144 killed by firearms in the US in 2015.

That means terrorists killed almost two and half times as people killing others with guns in the US.

Good thing you didn't actually wager any money.

Now if you had said illegal drug use in the US has caused more deaths than Terrorism and Guns in the US combined, you'd probably be right as illegal drugs killed at a record rate in 2016. 2017 may be worse.

"Drug deaths in the U.S. rose at the steepest rate ever to the highest level in recorded history in 2016, claiming more than 60,000 lives"

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diablofdb wrote:

Just imagine how the would go nuts if the shooter was a Trump supporter.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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diablofdb wrote:

Just imagine how the would go nuts if the shooter was a Trump supporter.

Stupid democrats would only ramp up their fake news agenda and call for Trump to be impeached because of it.

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ChanBalam wrote:

From the Washington Post this evening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-low_trumpmueller625pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f79f4f7c421b

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The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

The move by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.

Trump had received private assurances from then-FBI Director James B. Comey starting in January that he was not personally under investigation. Officials say that changed shortly after Comey’s firing....

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faerwin wrote:

That's nice and all (well, not really because you know, death and murder) but I was talking about occurence and not death toll.

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faerwin wrote:

It's also important to consider that the whole war with ISIS is considered as terrorism instead of warfare (they do both, but everything is put into terrorism).