[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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eyeaguda wrote:
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FatnissNeverlean wrote:
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Could anyone take a look at my pizza witch, it feels like i'm doing something wrong since i'm doing very little damage especially when i switch to the CE single target gem, mabye i'm just retarded but i'm supposed to use FB/Controlled desdtruction/chance to ignite/CE(IAoE), fire pen?
I've probably read the guide 10 times and now i just got frustrated enough to ask for help since i couldnt even kill t9 boss (Without retard mods). I appreciate all help! And a point towards next upgrade would be cool aswell! Otherwise i think its a blast playing the pizza build!
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Your skill gems look alright, and your tree has all of the major points. One thing, shield charge is an attack so faster casting doesn't help at all. Edit: Why do you have the minion life/regen wheel instead of taking more fire damage? Do you really need this? Maybe 1 point for minion regen for quality of life but I honestly can't see how to justify more than that.

There is a bit of skill required to play this build. You can't just run in randomly and shoot off a pizza and hope for the best. If you're not running vaal lightning trap, you *need* to time your 10 stack pizza to coincide with the triple flux.

When I go to kill the boss in shaped mesa (t10), my timing looks like this (very similar for t12 vault, too):

Swap gems and wait outside door until I'm partway through the lightning flux. Step inside door. As soon as fire flux starts, break the session change immortality. Drop a decoy totem where I think he's going to land, drop orb of storms, pop flasks (i use Oak and Sorrow of the Divine, thinking about dropping sorrow though), start channeling FB where you think he'll land, launch the FB when you're in the 2 second window of shocking + igniting conflux AND have 10 stacks AND the boss is inside it AND the boss got hit by the orb of storms. You'll hit a 10 stack CE pizza, shock the boss, and apply EE from your orb of storms, and he'll burn to death very quickly.

If you just run in and whip out some 8 stack pizza with 0 thought and the wrong conflux , you're going to do poor damage.

For reference, I've killed all 4 guardians (phoenix never again my god) and got to shaper phase 2 the first time I ever attempted him even though I didn't bring a mana pot. With a mana pot I'm positive I would have made it to phase 3 shaper on my first attempt ever.
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This helped, also afew more hours into the character helped alot, as you say its not an entirely easy build to play and i assume most of the issues have been linked to that, since i've mostly ran in and fired up a 10 stack pizza! Thanks for catching the minion wheel! I must have not regretted it since iswapped to this build from an LL summoner. Thanks for the help! Regarding shield charge it is something i'm just trying out since i've used it alot before but i'm considering switching back to dash


When you get familiar with the build you don't need to pay attention to Pendulum and Conflux, unless you are trying to pull off the ultimate move. Just pretend the Pendulum and Conflux don't exist and do your thing. You don't need to "wait" for anything. For mobs just cast a 2-3 stack FB. Only use 10-stack for bosses or tough rares such as multi-essence mobs.
Last edited by loonger#5545 on Apr 11, 2017, 10:37:00 PM
He there Guys,i have followed the build as close as possible and I have hit the limit of 9.7K es with this equipment. I have looked for better gear keeping the same amount of resistance,but it was either too expensive or would screw me on ele. Weakness.

Any suggestions?

(PS: about the other ring,i can't really deal with being frozen or slowed,my reflexes aren't really good,so when I noticed I am frozen I am already dead. Just wanted to put his out there just so if anyone was wondering)
Just put Energy from within jewel on Medling sector slot.

Fragments ring is shit, I was dead being frozen only once when triggered ice tempest on uber-izaro with darkshrine, in most situations you still have whooping ES buffer to react with flasks.
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eyeaguda wrote:
Regarding shield charge it is something i'm just trying out since i've used it alot before but i'm considering switching back to dash


Have you tried Lightning Warp? Linked to Faster Casting and Less Duration it's very fast way to travel and goes through ledges as well.
Level 65. Soon switching to CI and so much fun so far.
BUT ... I die a lot in breaches, overwhelmed, no time to make pizzas before being slaughtered.
Isthere a particular way to treat breaches, especially the crowded ones ??
Thank you.
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Scipion75 wrote:
Level 65. Soon switching to CI and so much fun so far.
BUT ... I die a lot in breaches, overwhelmed, no time to make pizzas before being slaughtered.
Isthere a particular way to treat breaches, especially the crowded ones ??
Thank you.

Use Decoy totem. Farm on Dry Lake or low tier maps to get to lvl70ish and switch to CI asap. Do not cast 10-stack FB for trashes.
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loonger wrote:


When you get familiar with the build you don't need to pay attention to Pendulum and Conflux, unless you are trying to pull off the ultimate move. Just pretend the Pendulum and Conflux don't exist and do your thing. You don't need to "wait" for anything. For mobs just cast a 2-3 stack FB. Only use 10-stack for bosses or tough rares such as multi-essence mobs.


True, for mobs 2-4 stack pizza is enough to kill pretty much anything with the burn. For most bosses in the t10-t12 range, I don't even swap to CE anymore, I just make sure I hit during the igniting conflux (shock doesn't matter, I do enough damage), except for vault boss b/c you get more loot the faster he dies so I make sure to do it correctly. For hard bosses (t15/guardians/shaper) you definitely want to be timing everything at least to ensure that you ignite (ignore pendulum though, it's too hard to line up) because you can lose so much time if you don't ignite the boss and have to fire off another pizza.
Hey guys what is this CI and CE tha you all mention?New in the game.Enjoying this build very much though
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gabrielsub0 wrote:
He there Guys,i have followed the build as close as possible and I have hit the limit of 9.7K es with this equipment. I have looked for better gear keeping the same amount of resistance,but it was either too expensive or would screw me on ele. Weakness.

Any suggestions?

(PS: about the other ring,i can't really deal with being frozen or slowed,my reflexes aren't really good,so when I noticed I am frozen I am already dead. Just wanted to put his out there just so if anyone was wondering)


I'm level 90, also followed this build very closely, and i'm at 11K ES. I only spent what i found, and some of my items are very very bad. You should be able to get 10k+ ES very easily. i have 4 jewels that give +7% ES, my boots and gloves are quite bad but have high ES values.

a lvl 20 discipline also helps of course :-)
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Scipion75 wrote:
Level 65. Soon switching to CI and so much fun so far.
BUT ... I die a lot in breaches, overwhelmed, no time to make pizzas before being slaughtered.
Isthere a particular way to treat breaches, especially the crowded ones ??
Thank you.


I used Stibnite Flask, which creates smoke cloud on use (blinds monsters in it, chance to hit lowered by 50%). Decoy Totem helps too. Once your golems are elemental immune, they are indestructible in elemental breaches. Cast speed also helps a ton. I just cast Decoy, open breach, start channelling Flameblast, pop Stibnite Flask. I keep channelling until monsters get close and then pop the Flameblast. After that you have to use FB more strategically, using smaller stacks whenever needed.

Breaches are very hard if your damage just isn't there. If you can't kill the monsters, they will overwhelm you. So if you can't handle them with this strategy, just farm more equipment and levels. Eventually you will be able to handle any breach in any map. Also breach domains.

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