[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

Hello,
Thanks for your build, i use it in SC legacy... with pleasure.
For my last ascendancy point I hesitate between pendulum or parangon
Do you know if parangon make a real difference for survivability in last maps (T13-15 - guardians - shaper)
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christpoe wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for your build, i use it in SC legacy... with pleasure.
For my last ascendancy point I hesitate between pendulum or parangon
Do you know if parangon make a real difference for survivability in last maps (T13-15 - guardians - shaper)


After you successfully transit to CI, single mob reflection is no longer a problem. So Pendulum is much better in terms of DPS and QoL.

Heck, if you master the Detonate Dead setup you can even run Elemental Reflection map with ease. Please kindly check the question regarding reflection in the Q&A session for more details.
Could anyone take a look at my pizza witch, it feels like i'm doing something wrong since i'm doing very little damage especially when i switch to the CE single target gem, mabye i'm just retarded but i'm supposed to use FB/Controlled desdtruction/chance to ignite/CE(IAoE), fire pen?
I've probably read the guide 10 times and now i just got frustrated enough to ask for help since i couldnt even kill t9 boss (Without retard mods). I appreciate all help! And a point towards next upgrade would be cool aswell! Otherwise i think its a blast playing the pizza build!
Last edited by eyeaguda#6453 on Apr 10, 2017, 5:50:40 PM
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Could anyone take a look at my pizza witch, it feels like i'm doing something wrong since i'm doing very little damage especially when i switch to the CE single target gem, mabye i'm just retarded but i'm supposed to use FB/Controlled desdtruction/chance to ignite/CE(IAoE), fire pen?
I've probably read the guide 10 times and now i just got frustrated enough to ask for help since i couldnt even kill t9 boss (Without retard mods). I appreciate all help! And a point towards next upgrade would be cool aswell! Otherwise i think its a blast playing the pizza build!


Your skill gems look alright, and your tree has all of the major points. One thing, shield charge is an attack so faster casting doesn't help at all. Edit: Why do you have the minion life/regen wheel instead of taking more fire damage? Do you really need this? Maybe 1 point for minion regen for quality of life but I honestly can't see how to justify more than that.

There is a bit of skill required to play this build. You can't just run in randomly and shoot off a pizza and hope for the best. If you're not running vaal lightning trap, you *need* to time your 10 stack pizza to coincide with the triple flux.

When I go to kill the boss in shaped mesa (t10), my timing looks like this (very similar for t12 vault, too):

Swap gems and wait outside door until I'm partway through the lightning flux. Step inside door. As soon as fire flux starts, break the session change immortality. Drop a decoy totem where I think he's going to land, drop orb of storms, pop flasks (i use Oak and Sorrow of the Divine, thinking about dropping sorrow though), start channeling FB where you think he'll land, launch the FB when you're in the 2 second window of shocking + igniting conflux AND have 10 stacks AND the boss is inside it AND the boss got hit by the orb of storms. You'll hit a 10 stack CE pizza, shock the boss, and apply EE from your orb of storms, and he'll burn to death very quickly.

If you just run in and whip out some 8 stack pizza with 0 thought and the wrong conflux , you're going to do poor damage.

For reference, I've killed all 4 guardians (phoenix never again my god) and got to shaper phase 2 the first time I ever attempted him even though I didn't bring a mana pot. With a mana pot I'm positive I would have made it to phase 3 shaper on my first attempt ever.
Last edited by FatnissNeverlean#2150 on Apr 10, 2017, 6:44:40 PM
Hi I would really like to try this build but im kinda confused with the gears. I currently have a tri curse WI CI which have good gears (it has 10k ES) and I was wondering if can I use those gears for this build? thanks for the reply, cheers!
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paulmaxycabigon wrote:
Hi I would really like to try this build but im kinda confused with the gears. I currently have a tri curse WI CI which have good gears (it has 10k ES) and I was wondering if can I use those gears for this build? thanks for the reply, cheers!


These are my gears. would it work for this build or do I need to change a few things?
Hello.
I am starting new char with your build hoping to be at last able to reach end game without the need to be very rich.
One question on leveling, and sorry if it was already discussed, forum is quite large :D
You say we can go Fireblast when we get elemental proliferation support, ie lvl 38 gem.
Well I am at this point, but I dont see you are using this gem in your gear setup ... so why do we have to wait for it to switch to FBlast ???
Thank you
The only specific things you need are chayula amulet (because stuns while cooking a pizza are annoying at least) and elreon crafted ring for solving mana issues. Also doryani catalist fits perfectly for weap slot. Other items are just general ES stuff.
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FatnissNeverlean wrote:
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Could anyone take a look at my pizza witch, it feels like i'm doing something wrong since i'm doing very little damage especially when i switch to the CE single target gem, mabye i'm just retarded but i'm supposed to use FB/Controlled desdtruction/chance to ignite/CE(IAoE), fire pen?
I've probably read the guide 10 times and now i just got frustrated enough to ask for help since i couldnt even kill t9 boss (Without retard mods). I appreciate all help! And a point towards next upgrade would be cool aswell! Otherwise i think its a blast playing the pizza build!


Your skill gems look alright, and your tree has all of the major points. One thing, shield charge is an attack so faster casting doesn't help at all. Edit: Why do you have the minion life/regen wheel instead of taking more fire damage? Do you really need this? Maybe 1 point for minion regen for quality of life but I honestly can't see how to justify more than that.

There is a bit of skill required to play this build. You can't just run in randomly and shoot off a pizza and hope for the best. If you're not running vaal lightning trap, you *need* to time your 10 stack pizza to coincide with the triple flux.

When I go to kill the boss in shaped mesa (t10), my timing looks like this (very similar for t12 vault, too):

Swap gems and wait outside door until I'm partway through the lightning flux. Step inside door. As soon as fire flux starts, break the session change immortality. Drop a decoy totem where I think he's going to land, drop orb of storms, pop flasks (i use Oak and Sorrow of the Divine, thinking about dropping sorrow though), start channeling FB where you think he'll land, launch the FB when you're in the 2 second window of shocking + igniting conflux AND have 10 stacks AND the boss is inside it AND the boss got hit by the orb of storms. You'll hit a 10 stack CE pizza, shock the boss, and apply EE from your orb of storms, and he'll burn to death very quickly.

If you just run in and whip out some 8 stack pizza with 0 thought and the wrong conflux , you're going to do poor damage.

For reference, I've killed all 4 guardians (phoenix never again my god) and got to shaper phase 2 the first time I ever attempted him even though I didn't bring a mana pot. With a mana pot I'm positive I would have made it to phase 3 shaper on my first attempt ever.


This helped, also afew more hours into the character helped alot, as you say its not an entirely easy build to play and i assume most of the issues have been linked to that, since i've mostly ran in and fired up a 10 stack pizza! Thanks for catching the minion wheel! I must have not regretted it since iswapped to this build from an LL summoner. Thanks for the help! Regarding shield charge it is something i'm just trying out since i've used it alot before but i'm considering switching back to dash
Last edited by eyeaguda#6453 on Apr 11, 2017, 6:12:25 AM
Another question about curses ...
I count 3 curses, Temporal Chains with blasphemy, Elemental Weakness and Flammability with Orb of Storms.
Well , even with a +1 curse ring that makes 2 possible, how can u curse mobs 3 times ??

Edit I saw in the final tree the +1 curse node is taken. No matter my question.
Last edited by Scipion75#1389 on Apr 11, 2017, 6:17:06 PM

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