2.6 CI Ignite Flameblast by Waldgaist - very good starting Build and decent Shaper farmer

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SunL4D2 wrote:

How you stay alive? You are CI and can't heal with life potions (except that 5% regen per second flask which won't save you). You don't have any ES regen. You don't have any leech. You don't have nor Temporal Chains nor Enfeeble. Arctic Armour is nice but it's hardly enough. Do you use Rumi's for block chance?

You won't survive while taking more than 1-2 hits without Rumis (or probably even with it). So you stay alive by playing super extra insanely borderline paranoic cautiously?

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waldgaist wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

How you stay alive? You are CI and can't heal with life potions (except that 5% regen per second flask which won't save you). You don't have any ES regen. You don't have any leech. You don't have nor Temporal Chains nor Enfeeble. Arctic Armour is nice but it's hardly enough. Do you use Rumi's for block chance?

You won't survive while taking more than 1-2 hits without Rumis (or probably even with it). So you stay alive by playing super extra insanely borderline paranoic cautiously?

I just know how to play on a safe distance.
Also this build has ES regen with Zealot's Oath and elemental leech because of Ghost Reaver and Doryanis. Furthermore it's nearly impossible to get one shotted if you have 12k+ ES.

Oh and you are going to oneshot every mob so you basically kill them before they even reach ya. Just watch the Core Run Video i did with this build and it should clear all of your concerncs.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

I see, I knew "you stay alive by playing super extra insanely borderline paranoic cautiously". Thanks for the answer!

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Myroc wrote:

Is there a reason as to why you're not using Liege of the Primordial over Beacon of Ruin?

Liege of the Primordial just seems to offer so much more than Beacon of Ruin does. Assuming you have just a single Flame Golem, LotP immediately gives you 55-60% MORE fire damage (40% from matching golem, and an extra 15-20% from the Flame Golem) in addition to the 15-20% damage boost the Flame Golem already gives you. This is before you take into account the extra golem you get to play with, which opens up a whole world of new possibilites, such as a Chaos Golem for phys damage reduction, a Stone Golem for increased ES regeneration with Zealot's Oath, or a Lightning Golem for even faster Flameblast stacking.

Beacon of Ruin, in comparison, seemingly gives you far less than the above. It's just Elemental Proliferation that doesn't occupy a socket, and although that is valuable in itself, I feel like it doesn't contribute much to this build. All it does is help spread elemental ailments to fodder - something which shouldn't be neccessary because you're playing Flameblast and should be annihilating all whites and blues you come across on the spot with the absurd damage that follows it (which is even more absurd if you take into account the added damage from above). And for those few mobs that you can't demolish in an instant, you can still very easily apply ailments to between your large AoE and the guaranteed procs from Shaper of Desolation.

I understand that ignite is a big part of this build, or you wouldn't be attempting to get as much double dipping for bonuses as you are, but my understanding is that the sheer majority of mobs aren't going to survive the initial blast to be much affected by ignite (or freeze/shock from SoD) to begin with.


I feel like I'm missing something because I just don't see why I would ever pick Beacon of Ruin when Liege of the Primordial provides me with so much more in return.