I just posted more info about what we're planning to do about the security systems in this thread: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/172532
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Posted byChrison Feb 20, 2013, 7:37:55 AMGrinding Gear Games
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
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Posted byXZlayeDon Feb 20, 2013, 8:13:00 AM
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
i agree with you
chris couldn't be more condescending
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Posted byomnibeanon Feb 20, 2013, 8:16:09 AM
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
i agree with you
chris couldn't be more condescending
I wouldnt release open beta without a security measure like the one coming to start with...
With people hacked on this large scale you should just start a new league for those who got hacked or couldnt play hardcore because of desyncs
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Posted byStruykon Feb 20, 2013, 8:17:34 AMBanned
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
Your post, sorry, doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you want them to do?
I guess, everyone understands that they simply cannot give stolen stuff back.
In addition to that it was cleary stated that nothing on their side has been touched, which means that , as rough as it probably may seem, it's the people's fault who made the mistakes Chris also stated. (re-using passwords, powerleveling, lack of java security and so on...).
Besides that, I don't think that the "gaming experience" should suffer from that.
If you really *LOVE* a game, you'd just start more or less again.
It's not that people lost currency worth 1-2-3 years of playing.
Cheers :)
/edit: I don't want to offend anyone, just saying! I'd be mad aswell if they hacked me.
Last edited by Sszark on Feb 20, 2013, 8:26:48 AM
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Posted bySszarkon Feb 20, 2013, 8:20:46 AM
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
Your post, sorry, doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you want them to do?
I guess, everyone understands that they simply cannot give stolen stuff back.
In addition to that it was cleary stated that nothing on their side has been touched, which means that it's, as rough as it probably may seem, the people's fault who made the mistakes Chris also stated. (re-using passwords, powerleveling, lack of java security and so on...).
Besides that, I don't think that the "gaming experience" shouldn't suffer from that.
If you really *LOVE* a game, you'd just start more or less again.
It's not that people lost currency worth 1-2-3 years of playing.
Cheers :)
I would roll back whole server to 12 hours ago, and make everyone change there password.
This hack has been on a way to large scale, it totally fucked up the economy and many people quit playing because of it.
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Posted byStruykon Feb 20, 2013, 8:22:24 AMBanned
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So when are you refunding me? I find it really funny that no one has directly contacted me yet I'm one of the only posters that make any legitimate post. Basically what I'm saying is you don't care, you say sorry blah blah blah but it means nothing to you.
The duplicate items issue you bring up is a poor poor poor poor excuse for treating paying customers this way. This will not crash the games eco system and never has in any game. D3, eco doesn't suck because blizzard allows roll backs. WoW eco system is not wacked out because blizzard replaces hacked items. these are the only 2 games I have experience in playing when it comes to hacked items so it'a all I can use.
Easy enough to check, if it took a few days for you to check everything to get my items back that would be fine.
I promises I have not been to china in my life, so if there was a Chinese IP that accessed my account.. 99% sure that it wasn't me and would be easy to find that item.
Like I've posted in my other comments, I personally don't give a shit about the orbs that are missing. The items that are gone make my only farming toon unplayable. if every one got 3-4 items restored and you were able to remove the old one (even if you weren't able to) The game will but out into anarchy and the game be over ran. This is absurd that you would think this.
1740 hours in open beta, 900 hours or so of played time. 800 hours of unplayed time. Am I High or low played?
This is open beta, we've tested your security. It sucks fix it and help us. Some of us have ppaid you and we get tossed under a bus with your. I don't give a shit attitude. Treating any customer like this is appalling and even paying ones.
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
Agreed.
"Unfortunately, we cannot restore any items lost to theft." Unless you are a well known streamer then we will do anything for you.
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Posted byTheHeffNerron Feb 20, 2013, 8:26:42 AMBanned
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
Your post, sorry, doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you want them to do?
I guess, everyone understands that they simply cannot give stolen stuff back.
In addition to that it was cleary stated that nothing on their side has been touched, which means that it's, as rough as it probably may seem, the people's fault who made the mistakes Chris also stated. (re-using passwords, powerleveling, lack of java security and so on...).
Besides that, I don't think that the "gaming experience" should suffer from that.
If you really *LOVE* a game, you'd just start more or less again.
It's not that people lost currency worth 1-2-3 years of playing.
Cheers :)
/edit: I don't want to offend anyone, just saying! I'd be mad aswell if they hacked me.
I may be venting some frustration here, however i do find it odd that they're not doing anything to attempt any type of rollback or the sorts. I've seen people who got killed in hc because of a crash, to then be rollbacked into the hc league - there was also some high ladder guy who this happened to and they went out of their way to put him back into hardcore.
I just find it appalling that they're not trying to reach out and help especially since currency is just about everything in this game.
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Posted byXZlayeDon Feb 20, 2013, 8:28:15 AM
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this. I payed you people money because I had faith in your product, yet when i need your help, you go out of your way to make sure we know you won't help us. Sorry that just really seems unacceptable. I may be biased as i got hacked and gotten my entire game experience ruined, and i do understand you don't want to ruin the economy, however it really does appear that you're rewarding the ones who commited this crime, and further punishing the victims.
Your post, sorry, doesn't make any sense at all.
What do you want them to do?
I guess, everyone understands that they simply cannot give stolen stuff back.
In addition to that it was cleary stated that nothing on their side has been touched, which means that it's, as rough as it probably may seem, the people's fault who made the mistakes Chris also stated. (re-using passwords, powerleveling, lack of java security and so on...).
Besides that, I don't think that the "gaming experience" should suffer from that.
If you really *LOVE* a game, you'd just start more or less again.
It's not that people lost currency worth 1-2-3 years of playing.
Cheers :)
/edit: I don't want to offend anyone, just saying! I'd be mad aswell if they hacked me.
I may be venting some frustration here, however i do find it odd that they're not doing anything to attempt any type of rollback or the sorts. I've seen people who got killed in hc because of a crash, to then be rollbacked into the hc league - there was also some high ladder guy who this happened to and they went out of their way to put him back into hardcore.
I just find it appalling that they're not trying to reach out and help especially since currency is just about everything in this game.
Yea, but a lot of people got hacked and if they'd rollback to 12 hours ago, for example, then players who didn't get hacked but progressed would be pretty screwed.
I could be wrong, but I guess that could be one of the reasons why a rollback wont happen.
/e And, of course, do I understand you're frustrated.
Last edited by Sszark on Feb 20, 2013, 8:32:30 AM
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Posted bySszarkon Feb 20, 2013, 8:32:07 AM
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Chris the problem with that statement, is that you outright blame the people who are the victims of this.
i agree with you
chris couldn't be more condescending
Are you guys serious?
You've been raging like lunatics at GGG and insisting it was the game that got hacked and not you, calling them incompetent idiots, morons without security, and so forth...
So then Chris politely explains it's definitely you that got hacked and not the game and also lists the legit reasons why they cannot institute a policy of returning items in these cases and that makes him condescending?
Return the air you're breathing please, your brain isn't using it properly.
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Posted byoblomiron Feb 20, 2013, 8:36:54 AM
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