[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Spooh wrote:

Since orb of storms is only (or am I wrong?) in the build to proc elemental overload, if we spec AoF will Orb proc Elemental Overload still, or do we have other measures to do that? Do we crit enough with the build to keep EO up if thats not the case?

It's not just for proccing EO (see Q&A).

It doesn't need to do any actual damage to trigger EO. This build was using it with AoF+CtF before Pyre just fine.

I did read the Q&A, I just didn't realize it would still work. I thought it would have to do damage to proc it (poorly worded or extremely weird interactions for a newbie like me)

Edit: Another question regarding AoF. Since it will not be 100% converted damage, wouldn't it be worth picking fire damage routes over cold damage routes in the skill tree? Or when is the fire damage in this convertion calculated?

Talking about the node near Snowforged.

CtF gives us the other 50% for 100% on Icestorm. And AoF converts 50% of all damages to fire. So Orb of Storms and Ball Lightning deal no lightning damage, but they deal half of the original lightning damage as fire damage. And the ascendancy requires the use of a lightning spell but does not require it to do lightning damage too.

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Levirael wrote:

CtF gives us the other 50% for 100% on Icestorm. And AoF converts 50% of all damages to fire. So Orb of Storms and Ball Lightning deal no lightning damage, but they deal half of the original lightning damage as fire damage. And the ascendancy requires the use of a lightning spell but does not require it to do lightning damage too.

Ah right. Thanks!

I am going to respect my with to this when 2.6 goes live!

For the new Leagues there are two options:
AoF + Pyre(40%) and Conc.Effect or
AoF + Perandus Signet(good rare) and CtF gem.

From experimenting with Path Of Building it seems that Perandus Signet + CtF is the stronger option, but it's not too much difference. CtF also does add 29% of cold as extra fire on level 20. This is pretty much a 29% more. So the gem is not weak.

But switching isn't too hard, since coloring a staff between 3r3b and 2r4b should not be too hard. I will try this build in Legacy league and see. Maybe there will be a Legacy pyre ;-).

I was thinking, there's a version of this build as a berserker right? With a lot of leech, can this build works without the life leech gem as a berserker so we can use the Cold to Fire instead of it?

scorching ray > cast while channeling > elemental focus > cold to fire > conc effect > fire pen

I was thinking this setup as a berserker. The berserker has the 1% life leech + savage hit + 2% life leech from the warlods mark, maybe it's possible to drop the life leech gem and do that setup? What do you guys think?

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kazeshinii wrote:

I was thinking, there's a version of this build as a berserker right? With a lot of leech, can this build works without the life leech gem as a berserker so we can use the Cold to Fire instead of it?

scorching ray > cast while channeling > elemental focus > cold to fire > conc effect > fire pen

I was thinking this setup as a berserker. The berserker has the 1% life leech + savage hit + 2% life leech from the warlods mark, maybe it's possible to drop the life leech gem and do that setup? What do you guys think?

Go to the berserker thread then, this is the witch one :P

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Levirael wrote:

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kazeshinii wrote:

I was thinking, there's a version of this build as a berserker right? With a lot of leech, can this build works without the life leech gem as a berserker so we can use the Cold to Fire instead of it?

scorching ray > cast while channeling > elemental focus > cold to fire > conc effect > fire pen

I was thinking this setup as a berserker. The berserker has the 1% life leech + savage hit + 2% life leech from the warlods mark, maybe it's possible to drop the life leech gem and do that setup? What do you guys think?

Go to the berserker thread then, this is the witch one :P

This thread is more active and this question could help other people who want to play this build and don't want to lose much dps witht the change of the gems.

have question do mastermind work with avatar of fire ? We have 0 lighting dmg with it

if it works do I have to self cast it or its work with cast when dmg taken support ?

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dynia6666 wrote:

have question do mastermind work with avatar of fire ? We have 0 lighting dmg with it

if it works do I have to self cast it or its work with cast when dmg taken ?

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Levirael wrote:

And the ascendancy requires the use of a lightning spell but does not require it to do lightning damage too.

And it only works when you cast a spell, so no "Cast when..."