At first, I thought the skill/leveling system would be amazing

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Deceptionist wrote:
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timed wrote:


I'm sure you could skimp on the life nodes. But you greatly increase your chances of getting 1-shot and losing 100s of hours.


There are players that are contradicting you claims. Please go talk to them about it. You are incorrect about this. This is ignorant at best.

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Aaronator wrote:


Stop being a sheep.


That wool over your eyes sure looks flammable...

You would be a lot more credible if you actually had examples to back up your claim. If not, then you're the one being ignorant.
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Sedqal wrote:
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breno2342 wrote:
Well, stacking HP is the result of playing hardcore, not the result of some inherent property of the passive tree.


Consider lvl 75+ in default HC too. 15% penalty at dying is a huge setback (reason why so many are stuck in 70's for such a long time)


Or tis because people are bad.

die in HC and there goes your 150+ hours of grinding.

GRanted people are hitting level 90 so.. No real excuse for dying other than being bad.
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tinghshi wrote:

You would be a lot more credible if you actually had examples to back up your claim. If not, then you're the one being ignorant.


What is it with most people expecting information to be on ME, and not on OTHERS that I use to cross-reference with? It's the same thing with Science. Science isn't based on what the scientists think. It's based on the evidence AROUND THEM.

Learn how to use logic, bro. It'll make this game better.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

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Last edited by Deceptionist#1813 on Feb 18, 2013, 2:28:28 PM
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Deceptionist wrote:
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tinghshi wrote:

You would be a lot more credible if you actually had examples to back up your claim. If not, then you're the one being ignorant.


What is it with most people expecting information to be on ME, and not on OTHERS that I use to cross-reference with? It's the same thing with Science. Science isn't based on what the scientists think. It's based on the evidence AROUND THEM.

Learn how to use logic, bro. It'll make this game better.

Except you have no evidence. When you make a claim, don't expect anyone to take you seriously unless you have evidence. That's how science works.
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Thaelyn wrote:

I'm confused by this. While I've never been a HC player in any game, I've had quite a few conversations with HC fans over several games. When I ask what the appeal is the answer is always the same. Every single one of the HC players I've spoken to says that the appeal is the excitement over the risk of losing the character you've put hundreds of hours into.

Perhaps I'm missing something (a very real possibility), but it seems to me that if these people are to be believed then hardcore may not be the place for you.


I believe you are missing a great deal, as the skill tree being very limited in its current state has nothing to do with permanent death in HC mode.
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Deceptionist wrote:
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tinghshi wrote:

You would be a lot more credible if you actually had examples to back up your claim. If not, then you're the one being ignorant.


What is it with most people expecting information to be on ME, and not on OTHERS that I use to cross-reference with? It's the same thing with Science. Science isn't based on what the scientists think. It's based on the evidence AROUND THEM.

Learn how to use logic, bro. It'll make this game better.


Who are you "cross-referencing"? All I've read from you is bitter insults. Grow up, stop being such a close-minded fanboy and learn to discuss the game.
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timed wrote:
I'm sure that's the reaction most of us have when they see that gigantic passive tree.

"wow! there's so many passives and so many paths I can take!" Nope.

In HC, all the best/good builds are about stacking nothing but life. I don't even look forward to leveling anymore because I don't really care about +10 strength or +% life...


People that play HC are stacking lots of HP and defense nodes? Say it isnt so..
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timed wrote:
I'm sure that's the reaction most of us have when they see that gigantic passive tree.

"wow! there's so many passives and so many paths I can take!" Nope.

In HC, all the best/good builds are about stacking nothing but life. I don't even look forward to leveling anymore because I don't really care about +10 strength or +% life...


Its not all about stacking life, some HC builds are about stacking ES too.

Hardcore is about NOT dying. The best way to NOT DIE is to build your character to be HARD TO KILL, which means more HP and as much damage reduction as possible.

If you wanna do a crazy build that doesn't focus on survival, play softcore.
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tinghshi wrote:

Except you have no evidence. When you make a claim, don't expect anyone to take you seriously unless you have evidence. That's how science works.


There are people that contradict people's claims. That's your evidence. Take it or leave it. Stop being a mental sore.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.
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timed wrote:


Who are you "cross-referencing"? All I've read from you is bitter insults. Grow up, stop being such a close-minded fanboy and learn to discuss the game.


People that are contradicting your pussy claims. Learn to grow up, yourself.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.

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