[2.3]Dela's Obliterate Build CHEAP & FAST clears 200% life UPDATED

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6ixg0d wrote:
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Velgor wrote:


If you concern about squishiness and play witch, you better of rerolling into a shadow or ranger, which offers better defensive and scale better with crit.

I had 60k+ on tooltip buffed (366k with conc. effect+poison) and 5k life on level 93.

Going CI would probably mean loosing out on to much dps, but you can go for some hybrid (if you have a other source for frenzy then bloodrage), personally i don't have any problems even in t15, you can still take vaal grace for max dodge.


Look this up if you want to read about my build for crit/poison


I appreciate the suggestion. Looks like your crit/poison setup is fantastic as well!

I'm kind of bent on playing an the elementalist version though. Any suggestions you have regarding that? Do you know what the average tooltip for that looks like (just so I can get a good understanding of what to aim for)? Right now seems like the only way to scale my damage is to level/quality gems as well as get a good vaal implicit on my wands. Any other suggestions? Could I maybe go crit with the witch tree in the original post?

I got to the scion life wheel today and overall health pool definitely improved. Guess I was overreacting to the squishiness.


I would assume something around 15-30k tooltip depending on level/gear, you miss way more crit as witch, i guess it wouldn't be rly worth it anymore to go for a crit build (maybe if you still reach somehow 70%+ crit)

You can look at these DoubleDip modifier on what would be good and try to get these on jewels curses etc.
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scale only DoT = poison , DoT, duration
double dips = chaos dmg, projectile dmg, area dmg, increased damage, frenzy charge damage
scale hit = phys dmg, attack dmg, weapon dmg, attack speed, crit


You could invest more into curses/aura, take wither totem or maybe take the wand nodes from witch.
1-2 good rare wands with chaos/attack speed can help too.

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Zardin90 wrote:
can you give some leveling tree for the Pathfinder please ?


Could try something like this...
34Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAJuNCC7tgxmOAF7TfiSdfXXvemJa_rruDt-Yo4rEoiP2lwZNko19GYrDOiSLD6ttbBa_tUgmlWqMYeL1b1VLyBSi2bDY

48Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAJuNCC7tgxmOAF7TfiSdfXXvemJa_rruDt-Y_MWjisSiDY0j9pcGW69Nko19GYpOKpAKMHzDOiPTUUcki49gN9SNvw-r7T_UI21sFr-1SCaVaoxh4vVvVUvIFKLZsNjWWA==

75Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAJuNr-sILu2DGY4AXtN-JJ19de96Ylr-uu4O_MWjig2NI_Zbr4d2TZKNfU4q458wfCPTSn1RR49gN9SNv-0_BbXUI8LstMUqW2KsefZsjEM2napS7DY9VYXrY21spcsRL7VID6srCha_XfImlWqMDkhh4vVvEZZVS8gUBx6i2ZUusNjw1Y_6SVFcQIfLp5t1ns8V1lg=


Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Aug 18, 2016, 3:52:04 PM
Is this build mf viable?
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fensinator wrote:
Is this build mf viable?

Nothing stops you from wearing IIR gear but you won't get far, since you actually need the links for KB and the explosions with its prolif/poison are what actually kills stuff - those are unsupportable by Culling+IIR+IIQ.
So, out of curiosity do you think we could do something nice with low life? I am not fussed on the class. I would have assumed Occultist would be a no brainer though I do know that currently Deadeye seems to be overall the best.

Currently running with an older Elementalist in standard, though it seems a bit squishy. Tooltip is trash as usual but the "real" damage is still really good.

Once we get the respec I will either be creating that sweet Deadeye or looking at a LL variation.

So yeah, any thoughts on a LL tree or do you guys think life will still work out the best in this case?
I have a Crown of Eyes too if it makes any difference (though obviously Vertex would probably feel nicer for ES).

Spoiler


In terms of 6L items, I only have a Tabula or Daresso's Defiance.
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TheDarklite wrote:
So, out of curiosity do you think we could do something nice with low life? I am not fussed on the class. I would have assumed Occultist would be a no brainer though I do know that currently Deadeye seems to be overall the best.

Currently running with an older Elementalist in standard, though it seems a bit squishy. Tooltip is trash as usual but the "real" damage is still really good.

Once we get the respec I will either be creating that sweet Deadeye or looking at a LL variation.

So yeah, any thoughts on a LL tree or do you guys think life will still work out the best in this case?
I have a Crown of Eyes too if it makes any difference (though obviously Vertex would probably feel nicer for ES).

Spoiler


In terms of 6L items, I only have a Tabula or Daresso's Defiance.


You would probably drop to much dps as ranger/shadow to have a worthwhile es pool (not sure about Occultist), on life you can take 1 50 % aura, project. weakness (and 1 25 % aura with some points), but don't need to invest in a es shield, discipline and other es gear.

You would miss 125 % crit chance and attack speed from dual welding alone, also you won't be able too wear as much crit gear anymore.

Which aura to you think would worth the loss going on LL?
Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Aug 20, 2016, 8:12:01 AM
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Velgor wrote:
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TheDarklite wrote:
So, out of curiosity do you think we could do something nice with low life? I am not fussed on the class. I would have assumed Occultist would be a no brainer though I do know that currently Deadeye seems to be overall the best.

Currently running with an older Elementalist in standard, though it seems a bit squishy. Tooltip is trash as usual but the "real" damage is still really good.

Once we get the respec I will either be creating that sweet Deadeye or looking at a LL variation.

So yeah, any thoughts on a LL tree or do you guys think life will still work out the best in this case?
I have a Crown of Eyes too if it makes any difference (though obviously Vertex would probably feel nicer for ES).

Spoiler


In terms of 6L items, I only have a Tabula or Daresso's Defiance.


You would probably drop to much dps as ranger/shadow to have a worthwhile es pool (not sure about Occultist), on life you can take 1 50 % aura, project. weakness (and 1 25 % aura with some points), but don't need to invest in a es shield, discipline and other es gear.

You would miss 125 % crit chance and attack speed from dual welding alone, also you won't be able too wear as much crit gear anymore.

Which aura to you think would worth the loss going on LL?


No you are right of course.

I was only more or less thinking of the survivability an extended ES pool would allow (8 - 10kES vs 3.9 - 5K HP). In terms of Auras I almost always find myself throwing Discipline and Clarity onto life, meaning you don't really get any extra dps auras.

... I might just build both (basing a Witch on the Occultist tree with some variations) and see which I am more comfortable with. I have both characters pretty much ready to go, though my std Ranger is a little bit under-leveled.

Thanks for the feedback anyway, been following this guide since its inception and out of all the user variations I would still say yours seems the best.
Last edited by TheDarklite#3503 on Aug 20, 2016, 8:54:25 PM
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wenhao232 wrote:
12k tooltip? lol i have like 5k fully buffed with vaal haste and flask

The tooltip doesn't really matter much, since most of your damage comes from the Obliteration effect, which is based on enemy health. The passives and gear that you get for extra chaos and area damage are mostly to increase that effect to obscene levels; your KB damage is only for killing the first mob, which in turn will pop everyone around him.

I have around 5,5k unbuffed tooltip, but in reality it looks like this: https://vid.me/X4Bq

Sorry for potato quality; my upload speed is horrible.

Last edited by Senekis#5773 on Aug 21, 2016, 2:46:08 AM
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TheDarklite wrote:
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Velgor wrote:
Spoiler
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TheDarklite wrote:
So, out of curiosity do you think we could do something nice with low life? I am not fussed on the class. I would have assumed Occultist would be a no brainer though I do know that currently Deadeye seems to be overall the best.

Currently running with an older Elementalist in standard, though it seems a bit squishy. Tooltip is trash as usual but the "real" damage is still really good.

Once we get the respec I will either be creating that sweet Deadeye or looking at a LL variation.

So yeah, any thoughts on a LL tree or do you guys think life will still work out the best in this case?
I have a Crown of Eyes too if it makes any difference (though obviously Vertex would probably feel nicer for ES).

Spoiler


In terms of 6L items, I only have a Tabula or Daresso's Defiance.


You would probably drop to much dps as ranger/shadow to have a worthwhile es pool (not sure about Occultist), on life you can take 1 50 % aura, project. weakness (and 1 25 % aura with some points), but don't need to invest in a es shield, discipline and other es gear.

You would miss 125 % crit chance and attack speed from dual welding alone, also you won't be able too wear as much crit gear anymore.

Which aura to you think would worth the loss going on LL?


No you are right of course.

I was only more or less thinking of the survivability an extended ES pool would allow (8 - 10kES vs 3.9 - 5K HP). In terms of Auras I almost always find myself throwing Discipline and Clarity onto life, meaning you don't really get any extra dps auras.

... I might just build both (basing a Witch on the Occultist tree with some variations) and see which I am more comfortable with. I have both characters pretty much ready to go, though my std Ranger is a little bit under-leveled.

Thanks for the feedback anyway, been following this guide since its inception and out of all the user variations I would still say yours seems the best.


The 20-30k evasion and mana/life leech on Ranger/Shadow is defiantly a bonus for their survivability as well.
I guess you don't need Clarity later on anymore, if you get some mana leech on witch.
So which class should i choose for the new league with if i will not invest much in gear?
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fensinator wrote:
So which class should i choose for the new league with if i will not invest much in gear?


Would either take Deadeye (more for mapping) or Assassin (better single target)

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