[2.3]Dela's Obliterate Build CHEAP & FAST clears 200% life UPDATED

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GGIsLoveGGIsLife wrote:

if anyone can lemmy know how the builds looking for me so far the characters name on my profile is
GrindingGearKineticBoom

i only reach about 12k ish dmg atm with everything up excluding vaal haste which with it, is about 15k)

proj weakness (downside to using 2 curse ouras is you cant spam kinetic unless you always hit multiple targets) i finish out as the build is with 106 mana left
temp chain
7 charges
2 obliteration wands
use dawn belt to remove phys so im pure chaos (minus if i hit them with the actual frost wall)

unless i place down frost wall and manage to get him stuck that about the only time i do enough damage. otherwise they currently 1shot me usually... most likly because i only have 2.5k life~

move speed is nice and clears everything else fine.

im guessing its cause i removed my phys from the damage is why it feels weaker on bosses.

You probably gonna get the next dps boost from the chaos/phys nodes from shadow, jewel sockets and once your added chaos get more levels (i would get another one with q15+).

Your left obliteration wand has low pdps i would search for one with 132+, to get more chaos from the conversion, Atziri flask helps a lot if you still miss it btw.

Not having any life roll on gear may not be the best Idea tho :)

Hey all,

Tried this on witch and loved it.

That said...

Since the release of Ascendancy, I've been really keen on the Hierophant because I think that it's an interesting take on defense but I've found totem builds on it lame so far. So... I decided to try a version of this build on Hiero.

Here is my passive tree so far.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUCAAOaBAcEUQSzBx4I9A5IES8Rlha_FvMYPBhWGF0c3B8CIvQmPCaVKPorCismL50y0TY9NsU6WDwFPC09X0GHQ2NDyEVHRZ1GcUlRSbFMs08EUlNSr1NSVcZYbVxAXfJh4mKsZDNn_GhaaPJqQ2qMbAtsjG0ZcU1xYnUqdZ52gn_GgseDCYNfg8yD24Uyh8uPGo_6kyeVLpeVl_Saz5rgnaqhL6IAotmnCKebrJit8bDYsnC0DLTRtUi3PriTu029J76KwFTAZsgMyBTK088V0B_Xz9gk2L3dX-tj6-7vfO-I7-vwH_DV8kX1b_fX-Tf56P4K

I want to swap out more jewels for Grand Spectrum for more mana pool. I have the Clear Mind Jewel because of the spell damage and mana regen.

I'm using the Conviction of Power (hiero trait) with Romira's Banquet for a fast endurance charge buildup.

I'm running Divine Guidance and Sanctuary of thought for the ES, mana, reduced cast cost (and free cast cost).

Pursuit of Faith is giving me +4% damage per enemy that I kill (it stacks). Once I get one down, it cascades through the packs and accentuates the explosions.

I'm running one aura in a worm ring for zero reservation. Sadly, it's running Purity of Elements until I can optimize gear a bit more as I am slightly off in resists, but not a lot. I'll swap it for a herald or maybe haste if I can get the resists up a tad.

Interested in thoughts and suggestions.

-- Dale

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Velgor wrote:

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GGIsLoveGGIsLife wrote:

if anyone can lemmy know how the builds looking for me so far the characters name on my profile is
GrindingGearKineticBoom

i only reach about 12k ish dmg atm with everything up excluding vaal haste which with it, is about 15k)

proj weakness (downside to using 2 curse ouras is you cant spam kinetic unless you always hit multiple targets) i finish out as the build is with 106 mana left
temp chain
7 charges
2 obliteration wands
use dawn belt to remove phys so im pure chaos (minus if i hit them with the actual frost wall)

unless i place down frost wall and manage to get him stuck that about the only time i do enough damage. otherwise they currently 1shot me usually... most likly because i only have 2.5k life~

move speed is nice and clears everything else fine.

im guessing its cause i removed my phys from the damage is why it feels weaker on bosses.

You probably gonna get the next dps boost from the chaos/phys nodes from shadow, jewel sockets and once your added chaos get more levels (i would get another one with q15+).

Your left obliteration wand has low pdps i would search for one with 132+, to get more chaos from the conversion, Atziri flask helps a lot if you still miss it btw.

Not having any life roll on gear may not be the best Idea tho :)

yea but i use dawn belt removing my phys... so my wands only do chaos. or are you reffering to low dmg because of the gain phys as chaos?

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Velgor wrote:

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_Deadly_ wrote:

@xenochaos1: All the explosions slow down my computer, therefore the benefit of haste concerning movement speed would be very low. I'm already using increased attack speed as 6th gem (KB / GMP / Added Chaos / Void Manipulation / Pierce / Inc Attack Speed), i.e. the benefit of haste concerning attack speed isn't really necessary.

ever tried out conc. effect? should be a bigger boost dps wise then Inc Attack Speed

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You are right, but my Belly of the Beast has been a 4G2B, therefore I preferred Faster Attack Speed. But after 700 chromes (i even got 1G5B with a average possibility of 1 : 25000 faster than 3G3B^^) I'm now able to run Concentrated Effect and the DPS boost is especially notable vs bosses.



@GGIsLoveGGIsLife: More phys dmg on your second wand leads to more chaos damage due the conversion by Obliteration itself and by the shadow phys / chaos dmg nodes. Don't worry about your tooltip DPS. The DPS boost of Conc effect isn't shown in your tooltip. And as already mentioned the Shadow phys / chaos dmg nodes and more levels on your Added Chaos Dmg gem (with 20% quality at the end or even a corrupted 21/20 gem) will further imrpove your DPS. 2.5 k life on the other hand is really a bit low, just try to improve this value during the next levels. I would still recommend to use the Dyadian Dawn belt only in maps with physical reflect (especially when combined with Vulnerability).

I think both versions, Assassin and Deadeye are really good choices. My Deadeye run its first tier15 map (Abyss) yesterday and all monsters died quickly, even the Infernal King died much faster than I expected (all deathless). The same with the Brittle Emperor and the rest of the subsequent Wasteland map.

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Mobsy wrote:

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I do not understand how your personal computer performance can influence the build:
others can run with haste/hoa and enjoy +220% movement speed and not be bothered by the mini-freezes - 320% or more movement speed is still better than 250% right?

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Sure, in principal more movement speed is always better. Currently when i'm running through a cleared map, my fps drops from 20 fps to 12 fps then rises for a very short time up to 30, falls down to 20 fps and then the same procedure again, i.e. I even can't run fluently through an empty map. During normal gameplay without lags my fps varies between 4 and 20 fps, i.e. you don't have a good control. of the position of your character. Ground effects, after kill effects, explosions, frost walls causes lags and often my char isn't able to move for seconds. It often happens (especially after using a quicksilver flask with additional movement speed) that my char is too close to mob of monsters with an after kill effect (nemensis mod). The KB explosions, explosions by Obliteration and the subsequent after kill effects freezes my char. I can't avoid the after kill explosion and my char gets killed. It's better for me to stop in front of a mob of monsters, kill them savely and then carefully move on.

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Sure, in principal more movement speed is always better. Currently when i'm running through a cleared map, my fps drops from 20 fps to 12 fps then rises for a very short time up to 30, falls down to 20 fps and then the same procedure again, i.e. I even can't run fluently through an empty map. During normal gameplay without lags my fps varies between 4 and 20 fps, i.e. you don't have a good control. of the position of your character. Ground effects, after kill effects, explosions, frost walls causes lags and often my char isn't able to move for seconds. It often happens (especially after using a quicksilver flask with additional movement speed) that my char is too close to mob of monsters with an after kill effect (nemensis mod). The KB explosions, explosions by Obliteration and the subsequent after kill effects freezes my char. I can't avoid the after kill explosion and my char gets killed. It's better for me to stop in front of a mob of monsters, kill them savely and then carefully move on.

I am sorry to hear about the FPS loss.... I run 60 FPS constantly and the only drop is when a rather large pack blows up - feels like crap for 0.5secs and I get back to running like hell :))
The DPS of the build is not an issue after you get over 35k tooltip dps (buffed) - even T15's drop like flies.
The defensive part - well there are many approaches to this. I preferred 1 Jade flask :) seems to do the job if I do not afk or try to watch a movie during gameplay - died multiple times like this.

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Mobsy wrote:

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Sure, in principal more movement speed is always better. Currently when i'm running through a cleared map, my fps drops from 20 fps to 12 fps then rises for a very short time up to 30, falls down to 20 fps and then the same procedure again, i.e. I even can't run fluently through an empty map. During normal gameplay without lags my fps varies between 4 and 20 fps, i.e. you don't have a good control. of the position of your character. Ground effects, after kill effects, explosions, frost walls causes lags and often my char isn't able to move for seconds. It often happens (especially after using a quicksilver flask with additional movement speed) that my char is too close to mob of monsters with an after kill effect (nemensis mod). The KB explosions, explosions by Obliteration and the subsequent after kill effects freezes my char. I can't avoid the after kill explosion and my char gets killed. It's better for me to stop in front of a mob of monsters, kill them savely and then carefully move on.

I am sorry to hear about the FPS loss.... I run 60 FPS constantly and the only drop is when a rather large pack blows up - feels like crap for 0.5secs and I get back to running like hell :))
The DPS of the build is not an issue after you get over 35k tooltip dps (buffed) - even T15's drop like flies.
The defensive part - well there are many approaches to this. I preferred 1 Jade flask :) seems to do the job if I do not afk or try to watch a movie during gameplay - died multiple times like this.

Hey Mobsy, could you post a video of you doing an average tier map as the Pathfinder variant of this? Would love to see your MS + Deepz in action, and it would greatly help me decide on which to make in the future :D

So, quick question. While leveling, how long should I skip on the chaos damage nodes? Early on we're not really proc'ing Chaos damage, unless I'm missing something. Basically just leveling with Firestorm till I can get Bladefall.

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llamaegg wrote:

So, quick question. While leveling, how long should I skip on the chaos damage nodes? Early on we're not really proc'ing Chaos damage, unless I'm missing something. Basically just leveling with Firestorm till I can get Bladefall.

Pretty much. If you swap into BF/Poison/Void Manip they can start seeing some use earlier on

Anybody have a good hold on how to best pull off an Occultist, curse heavy version? I am still currently working on affording a Cospri's Will in Prophecy but I am trying to decide what to run for +4 curses total.

Edit: removed other issues, after switching some stuff around issues seemed to be fixed so mostly just curious on best curses.

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PleiadesBlackstar wrote:

Anybody have a good hold on how to best pull off an Occultist, curse heavy version? I am still currently working on affording a Cospri's Will in Prophecy but I am trying to decide what to run for +4 curses total.

Edit: removed other issues, after switching some stuff around issues seemed to be fixed so mostly just curious on best curses.

Projectile Weakness
Temporal Chains
Enfeeble

not so sure about what would be best as 4th