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" Mobsy wrote: " GGIsLoveGGIsLife wrote: ive got just barely over 3k life. the problem is it no longer becomes budget when u do ranger or assassin lol. none of my res are capped due to how pricy things get when ur trying to get diamond rings with 38-42 double res or even triple res while still getting the necessary int on them and still make room for chaos mods. ive paid 1 to 2 exalt for semi decent rings and STILL couldnt cap. i do maps fine for the most part. usually if anything i get killed more by not reading what a strong box has and insta dying to a nova or a mod with votile blood. currently at about 11k tooltip (again, no phys with dawns belt) and none of my gems are 20 20 yet except void manipulation. (can always look at my character. name will be obvious once u check them its a struggle wanting to jump between my trapper and this when i cant rush people and help them with this lol. dont get me wrong. its pretty good farming.. even faster than my trap but as far as bossing goes... it falls kind of short time wise. that and i know i wont be able to do atziri or uber with this vs my trapper. got a shavs yesterday and already have a heretics veil so if i get the skyforths i need i might just drop this AND sell off my remaining unneeded pieces from them and make a low life blade vortex LOL. And people still jump the Deadeye/Assasin bandwagon because the guys supporting them have been more vocal... Give non crit Pathifinder a chance - no crit gear required and you can clear all maps with super speed and imba flasks. I posted the 100c calculation for all gear (using tabula). You don't need 20 ex gear to make this build work. You can check my gear - 16k/40k works great :) i was just going with what i could make of it without reflect... how does pathfinder handle it. especially against just normal atziri Last edited by GGIsLoveGGIsLife#3300 on Jul 18, 2016, 11:36:09 AM	Posted by GGIsLoveGGIsLife#3300 on Jul 18, 2016, 11:35:34 AM Banned Quote this Post
" _Deadly_ wrote: " Proteusius wrote: [ ... How will the single target damage be? On a 6 link setup (currently I'm running 20/20 GMP / 20/20 KB/ 20/20 Pierce / 21/20 Added Chaos / 20/20 Void Manipulation / 20/20 Conc Effect) without poison support (i'm focussing con crit) the single target damage is from my point of view more than satisfying. Single rare monsters or any other single monster with lots of hitpoints are dying after a few shots with kinetic blast. As ranger and shadow you have access to the Vitality Void and Spirit Void cluster granting you high mana and life leech. With enough leech it is easy to spam KB until every monster is dead. Have you tried Romira's Banquet? Gives you a lot of accuracy, mana, a bit crit chance and crit multi and power charges for only 1 chaos orb in Prophecy. I'm still using one :-) if diamond rings with added chaos damage are too expensive just try diamond ringe with life, resis and added phyiscal damage. They are much much cheaper. I cant use Romira's Banquet because i barely cap my elemental resistances and i dont have enough intelligence. I tried to get enough crit without the gear but i only reach like 43%. Last edited by Proteusius#3931 on Jul 18, 2016, 12:51:56 PM	Posted by Proteusius#3931 on Jul 18, 2016, 12:34:34 PM Quote this Post
Noob question (new to the game) How do you get the wand? I checked the wiki and according to it (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Obliteration) you need 8 Alteration Shards and 8 Alchemy Shard? What does this mean? I need to sold them the items and he will give the the wand in exchange?	Posted by crorella#7452 on Jul 18, 2016, 6:56:03 PM Quote this Post
" crorella wrote: Noob question (new to the game) How do you get the wand? I checked the wiki and according to it (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Obliteration) you need 8 Alteration Shards and 8 Alchemy Shard? What does this mean? I need to sold them the items and he will give the the wand in exchange? to get obliteration u either find it after killing things or u go to poe.trade and buy it	Posted by GGIsLoveGGIsLife#3300 on Jul 18, 2016, 9:35:02 PM Banned Quote this Post
" Proteusius wrote: How will the single target damage be? Because single-target damage is pretty important for me. Oh and i cant buy any crit rings because they are so expensive, will it work without them? New amulet: " Proteusius wrote: I cant use Romira's Banquet because i barely cap my elemental resistances and i dont have enough intelligence. I tried to get enough crit without the gear but i only reach like 43%. 1 decent Crit ring will be fine too, you missing crit, res and socket nodes (which can helps a lot getting res/int) from the three... You can look at my build if you want some suggestions Spoiler FullTreeCrit+Posion https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAJuNr-sILhPa2rFpTu2DsQGtwlPPGY5xQwBeZdPTfiSdfXXvemJa_rruDvzFo4oNjSP2FfZbr4d2TZKNfWJ5TirjnzB8AAZM_0p9UUdDMdZYN9SNv-dUv9XDM9rBjX7gn-0_BbXUIyT9U7taGi5TdO23tgVmBnDC7DBx_97TbwUtdctOn7TF3ah67-pivqd6f2Ks2-dLeGVNbIxHBjpCvTadqtDQR342PY_6VYVtbPDVXEClyw-rtUiVLklRh8skixa_Bx6nm8M6JpVqjLTRdZ6J4Ju1YeL1b8gMzxXmWITFVUvIFJMfjDai2UkTidOw2HBSbAjxig== My Gear atm: Spoiler I don't even need 1 diamond ring do be still at max crit chance, if i use obliteration wands with high crit base Can't complain about my dps at all, can go over 93k hit dps + 250k poison dps buffed, enough to one shot any pack or rare, and most map bosses < 5sec. (not counting in any curse, wither, my 6 projectiles, deadeyes 30 % more modifier or frostwalls). Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Jul 18, 2016, 11:03:20 PM	Posted by Velgor#1241 on Jul 18, 2016, 11:01:06 PM Quote this Post
Ok my damage is good i only have like 4k dps but it feels like more. I reached 4.3k life now with new gear: Edit: I just tried Uber Lab and I killed Izaro pretty fast. He killed me at the end because the layout was pretty bad and i had no space to dodge his attacks and I killed myself with the frostwalls. Last edited by Proteusius#3931 on Jul 19, 2016, 12:35:44 PM	Posted by Proteusius#3931 on Jul 19, 2016, 9:52:28 AM Quote this Post
" GGIsLoveGGIsLife wrote: ... i was just going with what i could make of it without reflect... how does pathfinder handle it. especially against just normal atziri I've done Atziri yesterday for the first time with my Deadeye (you asked for Pathfinder, but perhaps this may interesting, too). Both Vaals died really quickly, Y'ara'az and A'alai died also within a few seconds, Q'ura as last trio boss wasn't a problem, too. Atziri killed me with her flameblast. Whenever I tried to fight vs Atziri, I got many lags (the same as during other boss fights with to much graphical effects for my comoputer). But reflect wasn't a problem (without Dyadian Dawn). I guess, as long as ypur chaos damage is significantly higher than your physical damage, you will outleech the reflect (especially with an Atziri flask) - with Kinectic Blast and a high chance of pierce you won't hit only the reflect mirror copy of Atziri.	Posted by _Deadly_#1369 on Jul 19, 2016, 11:18:59 AM Quote this Post
" _Deadly_ wrote: " GGIsLoveGGIsLife wrote: ... i was just going with what i could make of it without reflect... how does pathfinder handle it. especially against just normal atziri I've done Atziri yesterday for the first time with my Deadeye (you asked for Pathfinder, but perhaps this may interesting, too). Both Vaals died really quickly, Y'ara'az and A'alai died also within a few seconds, Q'ura as last trio boss wasn't a problem, too. Atziri killed me with her flameblast. Whenever I tried to fight vs Atziri, I got many lags (the same as during other boss fights with to much graphical effects for my comoputer). But reflect wasn't a problem (without Dyadian Dawn). I guess, as long as ypur chaos damage is significantly higher than your physical damage, you will outleech the reflect (especially with an Atziri flask) - with Kinectic Blast and a high chance of pierce you won't hit only the reflect mirror copy of Atziri. yeah after trying to run in parties multiple times and freezing everytime i hit a large pack, i decided to retire the build at lv 87. its nice but too laggy for my laptop even on texture quality forced to 5.	Posted by GGIsLoveGGIsLife#3300 on Jul 19, 2016, 2:17:43 PM Banned Quote this Post
Bringing my two cents to the table: I tried a LL version of this build as Occultist, as well as your variant Dela... Tonight I decided to throw together an Assassin version on standard, and I vastly prefer it to any Witch version of the build. The tree is suspect, I did no math and no optimizing - I have a million Assassins on standard now, so skill resets abound. Gear is the same: just filtered through tabs and grabbed what worked. Here's the gear: Crit capped, only 86% chance to hit: 10k in HO, 23k with 5 Power/4 Frenzy. Add your Atziri's Promise/Taste of Hate/Vinktar's (whatever floats your boat), and DPS gets insane considering the high chance for chaos detonation from dual Obliterations and poison. I'll continue to fiddle with things: -I'll either swap the chest to GGGGBB to add Void Manip over Inc Crit, or just throw a Inc Crit Damage (349% without power charges) in as I know that I am well over crit capped at the moment. Void Manip would add some huge scaling though considering how much chaos damage I picked up on the tree. -The tree could use some heavy optimization (if anyone wants to take a look and throw some suggestions my way, I'd appreciate the eyes): it's fairly dense compared to just about every other build I've made, but there's a TON of good stuff for a chaos wander on the north eastern side of the tree. -Gems are not capped, most are in the 15-18 range. HP is still low (3.8k with 800 ES), but the leech from Crown of Eyes, Doryani's and Atziri's Promise paired with VP is, as usual with Vaal Pact, plenty to keep you alive - this build isn't a Core Malachai/Atzubi clearer, just some mapping fun. Here's the tree Spoiler https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAAMeBAcFtQceB5kI9AmgDdEOSA-rEJIRLxGWFLAV7Ra_G8gfQSBuIvQj9iSLJP0mlSepKgsqOCsKMHwyMjY9PV8-zz9zSRNJUUmxTLNNklAwUUdSU1S9VUtVxleHXEBd8mHiYqxjQ2pDaoxsC2yMbOdtGXBSdf1_xoCugh6D24RvhKKIQonTieCMNo19jb-P-pMfkyeVLpaLl5WX9JphnaqhL6IEotmw2LTFtUi8b73mvoq-7sBUwcXC7MM6x8rIFMlEz93QH9RC1bnXz9mG217jhOZY51TviO_r8NXxivVv-Tf67__e?accountName=FocusedFelix&characterName=Melthist TL/DR: If you're having trouble making the Witch version work for whatever reason (low dps, squishy), try Assassin. EDIT! - That Conc Effect linked to temp chains is supposed to be an Inc Aoe, please ignore :P Last edited by FocusedFelix#6647 on Jul 20, 2016, 4:09:13 AM	Posted by FocusedFelix#6647 on Jul 20, 2016, 4:07:22 AM Quote this Post
" FocusedFelix wrote: Bringing my two cents to the table: I tried a LL version of this build as Occultist, as well as your variant Dela... Tonight I decided to throw together an Assassin version on standard, and I vastly prefer it to any Witch version of the build. The tree is suspect, I did no math and no optimizing - I have a million Assassins on standard now, so skill resets abound. Gear is the same: just filtered through tabs and grabbed what worked. Here's the gear: Crit capped, only 86% chance to hit: 10k in HO, 23k with 5 Power/4 Frenzy. Add your Atziri's Promise/Taste of Hate/Vinktar's (whatever floats your boat), and DPS gets insane considering the high chance for chaos detonation from dual Obliterations and poison. I'll continue to fiddle with things: -I'll either swap the chest to GGGGBB to add Void Manip over Inc Crit, or just throw a Inc Crit Damage (349% without power charges) in as I know that I am well over crit capped at the moment. Void Manip would add some huge scaling though considering how much chaos damage I picked up on the tree. -The tree could use some heavy optimization (if anyone wants to take a look and throw some suggestions my way, I'd appreciate the eyes): it's fairly dense compared to just about every other build I've made, but there's a TON of good stuff for a chaos wander on the north eastern side of the tree. -Gems are not capped, most are in the 15-18 range. HP is still low (3.8k with 800 ES), but the leech from Crown of Eyes, Doryani's and Atziri's Promise paired with VP is, as usual with Vaal Pact, plenty to keep you alive - this build isn't a Core Malachai/Atzubi clearer, just some mapping fun. Here's the tree Spoiler https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAAMeBAcFtQceB5kI9AmgDdEOSA-rEJIRLxGWFLAV7Ra_G8gfQSBuIvQj9iSLJP0mlSepKgsqOCsKMHwyMjY9PV8-zz9zSRNJUUmxTLNNklAwUUdSU1S9VUtVxleHXEBd8mHiYqxjQ2pDaoxsC2yMbOdtGXBSdf1_xoCugh6D24RvhKKIQonTieCMNo19jb-P-pMfkyeVLpaLl5WX9JphnaqhL6IEotmw2LTFtUi8b73mvoq-7sBUwcXC7MM6x8rIFMlEz93QH9RC1bnXz9mG217jhOZY51TviO_r8NXxivVv-Tf67__e?accountName=FocusedFelix&characterName=Melthist TL/DR: If you're having trouble making the Witch version work for whatever reason (low dps, squishy), try Assassin. EDIT! - That Conc Effect linked to temp chains is supposed to be an Inc Aoe, please ignore :P Conc Effect probably scales better on your hit dmg then Inc. Crit Damage (only gives me ~33 % being max crit chance, instant of the 1.59 from conc effect) and also double dips with poison dmg. You could consider using snakebite instant of a poison gem and swap it out for void manipulation, snakebite also helps with hp and accuracy instant of facebreaker. Taking Atrophy in the tree for chaos dmg would probably scale better then Force Shaper i guess. Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Jul 20, 2016, 4:55:22 AM	Posted by Velgor#1241 on Jul 20, 2016, 4:51:39 AM Quote this Post