[2.3] CoC Cyclone Discharge Trickster! HC/Level 100 Viable!

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LtTrog wrote:

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Grocery wrote:

Patient Reaper is not good. Burn doesn't stay up long enough to matter because stuff dies too fast.

I suppose even added cold with ressit buffs is better than nothing and there are other benefits to the charges.

For bandits is end really better then power? I would have thought more procs beats bigger procs

Cold damage and the multiplicative damage modifier that frenzy charges give.

How do you guys level with this build? Its really hard to level with...

you dont level with it lol, i suffered through normal-merc a1 with freeze pulse 6 link in tabula 6k dps apparently is not enough to kill blue packs in cruel so i was getting really mad and at level 55 in a1 merc town i switched to volls protector and coc discharge (without going CI yet stil hybrid since crit isnt that great at that level yet dont have all crit nodes so cant leech fast enough sometimes if you get unlucky) but have 5 power charges and im blasting through merc ledge atm :D seemd good enough :D couldnt take that shit freeze pulse 6k dps and cant kill a single rare like how much did they boost monster life in this league jeez.

Ifeel ur pain, im currently at a1 cruel level 33, im planning to transition to coc with volls once i get 38. Dont know if its going to work though...

dunno man,i sadly doubt that it will work properly :( atm im 58 doing act 2 merc, and it says on cyclone i have 59% chance to cast spells on crits and on some packs it can take few spins to get the discharge to go off most of the time i would be dead there if i was pure CI, so your will be way lower (i guess?) not sure how will that work unless you get really tons of attack speed :S

btw grocery why are we not getting annihilation node? 95% spell crit for 3 nodes ?

In regards to flasks:

Silver flask makes more sense than a basalt but I suppose its up to you out of preference.

My five setup:

Surgeons topaz flask of staunching
Surgeons ruby flask of grounding
Experimenters diamond flask of heat
Surgeons silver flask of warding
Surgeons Quicksilver flask of adrenaline

As the op pointed out, you definitely want removals / immunities to bleed, freeze, curse, and shock. I find curses to be the least worrisome, or cumbersome, of the group, which is why i advocate warding to be placed on the silver or basalt as they have less uptime than the other more important immunities/removals.

Any reason as to why you put bleed removal on the diamond? I find it doesn't really matter much where those go outside of the heavier charge users.

Also should mention, I made it to 88 on hardcore perandus with a close build replicating this, so it is definitely hc viable. I died to the village map boss on a really nasty set of mods. I don't reccomend fighting anything with huge bleed damage as bleed will rape this build (and a lot of other tanky type builds).

I'm currently 85 on hc prophecy with the same variant. It's a fun build, but does need a few things before you can make the transition into it.

-Level 70
-Vagan dagger, pref royal skean or poignard
-5L Volls
-Moderate ES gear
-Merc Lab completed

Anything less than the above and you'll struggle with it.

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idrgz wrote:

dunno man,i sadly doubt that it will work properly :( atm im 58 doing act 2 merc, and it says on cyclone i have 59% chance to cast spells on crits and on some packs it can take few spins to get the discharge to go off most of the time i would be dead there if i was pure CI, so your will be way lower (i guess?) not sure how will that work unless you get really tons of attack speed :S

btw grocery why are we not getting annihilation node? 95% spell crit for 3 nodes ?

You don't switch to CoC until like level 65 or 70. Trying before will just make you want to kill yourself.

I leveled just fine as Spark/Firestorm.

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KissMyBlade wrote:

Ifeel ur pain, im currently at a1 cruel level 33, im planning to transition to coc with volls once i get 38. Dont know if its going to work though...

DONT SWITCH AT 38. Switch at high 60s early 70s. You should be using popular leveling spells. Do not use Freeze Pulse. Freeze Pulse blows.

Flame Blast, Spark, Firestorm, EK, etc. All level easy.

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Grocery wrote:

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KissMyBlade wrote:

Ifeel ur pain, im currently at a1 cruel level 33, im planning to transition to coc with volls once i get 38. Dont know if its going to work though...

DONT SWITCH AT 38. Switch at high 60s early 70s. You should be using popular leveling spells. Do not use Freeze Pulse. Freeze Pulse blows.

Flame Blast, Spark, Firestorm, EK, etc. All level easy.

dunno ive leveled from 50 to 60 now from a1 to a3 merc and its pretty decent with 5l volls, vagan dagger. 60% crit on cyclone, havent died once yet.

btw you didnt answer about annihilation node?