[2.2] Assassin Flicker Strike - Low/Medium Budget - 750k DPS - Life Based

Just finished making a couple vids for demonstration with only a 5-link using this build.
Tier 9 Gorge
Tier 5 Underground Sea w/o Music
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK2MB1aeSkg
Don't mind my friend in the background. Forgot to mute them while recording.
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Betailas wrote:


It would help a lot if you mentioned what, specifically, you thought was wrong? I see a few things I assume are problems but you didn't mention what your problem actually is.

1) You didn't pick up the extra Frenzy charge nodes. Flicker Strike consumes these to attack so you need as many as possible; they also increase attack speed and add 4% MORE damage, so they are your best friend. Get all the ones I listed in my tree.

2) No accuracy; Critical strikes are accuracy checked twice, so it's very important... I covered this in the guide. Honestly, I don't get why you didn't follow my guide at all but then ask for help in your tree... I already posted what I feel is the min-maxed, best-possible tree so you already know my answer lol.

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Betailas wrote:


Damn, I've spent near 70 orbs of fusing to make my Daresso 6L, but got only 5L :(


Hate to break it to you but 70 is nothing for a 6L... expect to spend about 1000, hence why Vorici charges so much to do it.

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scrllock wrote:
Yeah, I've got that. With the 3 auras up, I have 51 mana left and flicker is 61. I'm looking at some of the mana nodes below duelist, or perhaps druidic rite (more flask duration) or primal spirit (more strenth/int). Only thing I see is that you have a +48 mana ring and I don't, so maybe I should look into replacing jewelry.


I have 63 mana without that ring; I'm going to assume you didn't pick up the 4% reduced reservation node at the top of the tree? That ring only adds 5 mana for me as 91% is reserved, so adding even 100 mana will only really give you 9 (for example's sake).

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Betailas wrote:
Is it possible to deal with Uber Atziry with this build?


I haven't run it, but I would lean towards no. Possible? Sure, someone somewhere could do it, but Atziri is already a challenge so I would use another build for her if possible. If this is your main, well please let me know how it goes! I'm very curious to hear, actually.

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Xepher3000 wrote:
Just finished making a couple vids for demonstration with only a 5-link using this build.
Tier 9 Gorge
Tier 5 Underground Sea w/o Music
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK2MB1aeSkg
Don't mind my friend in the background. Forgot to mute them while recording.


Nice man! At least people can see a sample of what the budget version looks like which is more than I can provide haha. Wait til you get a 6L and the full gear; it's about three times faster =D

Thanks for posting that!

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Vaalamity wrote:
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Betailas wrote:


It would help a lot if you mentioned what, specifically, you thought was wrong? I see a few things I assume are problems but you didn't mention what your problem actually is.

1) You didn't pick up the extra Frenzy charge nodes. Flicker Strike consumes these to attack so you need as many as possible; they also increase attack speed and add 4% MORE damage, so they are your best friend. Get all the ones I listed in my tree.

2) No accuracy; Critical strikes are accuracy checked twice, so it's very important... I covered this in the guide. Honestly, I don't get why you didn't follow my guide at all but then ask for help in your tree... I already posted what I feel is the min-maxed, best-possible tree so you already know my answer lol.

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Betailas wrote:


Damn, I've spent near 70 orbs of fusing to make my Daresso 6L, but got only 5L :(


Hate to break it to you but 70 is nothing for a 6L... expect to spend about 1000, hence why Vorici charges so much to do it.


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Betailas wrote:
Is it possible to deal with Uber Atziry with this build?


I haven't run it, but I would lean towards no. Possible? Sure, someone somewhere could do it, but Atziri is already a challenge so I would use another build for her if possible. If this is your main, well please let me know how it goes! I'm very curious to hear, actually.

1) my main problem on the 69 lvl is the lack of survivability
2) i'm trying to follow your guide but didn't now how to progress through the skill tree, i.e. what first, what second and so on, so I'll take accuracy nodes asap
3) what build would you use for the Uber Atziry? I saw a guy with a flicker-build who killed her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWARpUTydyQ
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Betailas wrote:
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Vaalamity wrote:
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Betailas wrote:


It would help a lot if you mentioned what, specifically, you thought was wrong? I see a few things I assume are problems but you didn't mention what your problem actually is.

1) You didn't pick up the extra Frenzy charge nodes. Flicker Strike consumes these to attack so you need as many as possible; they also increase attack speed and add 4% MORE damage, so they are your best friend. Get all the ones I listed in my tree.

2) No accuracy; Critical strikes are accuracy checked twice, so it's very important... I covered this in the guide. Honestly, I don't get why you didn't follow my guide at all but then ask for help in your tree... I already posted what I feel is the min-maxed, best-possible tree so you already know my answer lol.

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Betailas wrote:


Damn, I've spent near 70 orbs of fusing to make my Daresso 6L, but got only 5L :(


Hate to break it to you but 70 is nothing for a 6L... expect to spend about 1000, hence why Vorici charges so much to do it.


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Betailas wrote:
Is it possible to deal with Uber Atziry with this build?


I haven't run it, but I would lean towards no. Possible? Sure, someone somewhere could do it, but Atziri is already a challenge so I would use another build for her if possible. If this is your main, well please let me know how it goes! I'm very curious to hear, actually.

1) my main problem on the 69 lvl is the lack of survivability
2) i'm trying to follow your guide but didn't now how to progress through the skill tree, i.e. what first, what second and so on, so I'll take accuracy nodes asap
3) what build would you use for the Uber Atziry? I saw a guy with a flicker-build who killed her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWARpUTydyQ


You know that he uses Reave 90% of the time? You also know his Gear is worth 30ex> per Slot? 30ex> per Slot means Skyforth is 1 of the cheapest Items....... If you wanna do it, you do a better Job if you change your Flickergem with your frenzygem and remove Meleesplash and replace it with added Fire.

The guy from the Video has a Guide up on this Forum, it's called Omnisplasher or something like that, have fun "mirroring" his Gear... ;)
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_Daath_ wrote:

You know that he uses Reave 90% of the time? You also know his Gear is worth 30ex> per Slot? 30ex> per Slot means Skyforth is 1 of the cheapest Items....... If you wanna do it, you do a better Job if you change your Flickergem with your frenzygem and remove Meleesplash and replace it with added Fire.

The guy from the Video has a Guide up on this Forum, it's called Omnisplasher or something like that, have fun "mirroring" his Gear... ;)


His gear is worth well over 30 ex per slot if it's the Omnislasher guy; his guide was largely why I made mine: To make a realistic alternative for people without Loath Bane, Skyforth, and around 1000 ex worth of gear. His dagger alone is worth nearly 10x what my whole build costs, no exaggeration. So yes, with 1000 ex worth of gear, this build would also skullfuck Uber lol.

As for the passive points, I updated the leveling section to include some sample trees at various levels. Your biggest problem, though, was lack of Frenzy charges imo.

Keep in mind leveling build will vary by gear and play style; if you like never dying then focus on that. If you want huge damage, focus on that. Hell, the whole reason I posted Immolation's version is it's a very similar but glass-cannon version of my build. He deals 50% more damage (with 3 flasks) but my build has tons more survivability.

The choice is ultimately yours.
Last edited by Vaalamity#6929 on Apr 7, 2016, 2:48:28 AM
I like your build, i'm using it with a few tweeks lol. I'm using Blasphemy linked with Assassin's mark. I was having issues keeping frenzy charges, and now with Ash, i'm having issues with mana lol, if it aint one thing, its another. and yes, i use the frenzy set up, but with the assassins mark you get that 24% chance at a charge with each kill. Helps keep the flicker going. Now, do you only use Frenzy attack to generate charges? This may have been asked already, and if so just say so and i'll read through the pages.
Thanks. :)
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RHonorKnight wrote:
I like your build, i'm using it with a few tweeks lol. I'm using Blasphemy linked with Assassin's mark. I was having issues keeping frenzy charges, and now with Ash, i'm having issues with mana lol, if it aint one thing, its another. and yes, i use the frenzy set up, but with the assassins mark you get that 24% chance at a charge with each kill. Helps keep the flicker going. Now, do you only use Frenzy attack to generate charges? This may have been asked already, and if so just say so and i'll read through the pages.
Thanks. :)


Well I'm not the build author, but I've played this build with 5 tiers of hand-me-down gear from Immolation, Vaalamity, and the rest of our guild since before this guide existed.

Frenzy is only used to generate the charges rapidly in fights like Dom's last phase so you can start the flicker process. I've never used it in any other scenario except Vorici dailies where I can't kill the guards.

I know that Immolation uses Blasphemy linked with Assassin's mark as well. Usually when we have problems with frenzy charges, it is usually because we forgot to use blood rage, didn't notice it wore off, or weren't killing fast enough due to dps or extra hp mobs. Personally, I prefer to run a Doedre flask for those kinds of "oh shit" moments when you find yourself out of frenzy charges in the middle of a extra hp blue pack.

As far as mana, did you pick up the Mind Drinker and / or Essence Sap nodes? I know they are fairly critical to the mana issues. My flicker guy only has the Essence Sap nodes and I've never had mana issues at least with a 4L or 5L. You may need both sets of nodes for a 6L. Either that or you may be converting too much dmg to elemental and are thus missing out on the physical mana leech.
Last edited by phantomleader1st#4191 on Apr 13, 2016, 9:59:46 AM
3500 Hp??, and with abyssus? What's the hell, even a 5K hp toon with LC+ abyssus gets recked when hurt by big physical hits. you do not block attacks, only have 40% dodge...

It's a freakin suicide man. Pitifull...

and the dps is NOT that high, 528 000 fully buffed with pots.

The clear speed is alright, because flicker strike clear speed is insane. The build itself is just a suicide fest for t10+ maps ( crematorium boss will two shot you if you are not lucky, gorge boss will 3 shots you if you do not kill it fast enough, village ruin boss is of course undoable but a lot of ppls avoid it, argus is doable because it's slow).


3500 hp is not "life" based, it's "i pick up some nodes to not get killed by white monsters".
If you meet a volatile blood monster, you will be oneshooted on kill.

40% dodge 30% spell dodge 17% block is too low with 3500 hp. LC + abyssus counter each other and give a little room to breath but it's not enough.

Of course it's budget. But it's not viable in high maps and when could be.





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this is my flicker strike setup with 4500 hp, 600 life regen, 34% eva, 40% dodge 30% spell dodge, 92 % hit, 53% crit

and assassin's crit nodes for a 100% crit chance on full life/low life , vulnerability, assassin's mark, poacher's mark or warlord. (warlord for endurance charge, poarcher for reduced evasion and frenzy generation to be at 9 charges constantly but it's not needed anyway)

the build is based on poison, the goal is to get an insane scalability of poison with vulnerability and frenzy charges, they double dip for main strike then for poison.

The tooltip damage is low, 9K unbuffed, 15K self buff and 30K fully buffed with pots and rng triggers from jewels, the poison deals +320% of the initial damage. With 8 aps. I will not do the maths now but the real dps is around 516 K to 1 032 000.

Note, this dps includes vulnerability curse but not assassin's mark crit mult so the dps is higher

this is WITHOUT ABYSUSS, abyssus gives 30% MORE dps. (but it's too dangerous, i hate this hat))
this is without ASSASSIN'S 100% crit chance! it kills packs in one hit and bosses in 5 hits max.( first hit is crit, second and third can be crit or not, 4 - 5 last hits are crit)

Poison is not reflectable, and the physical damage is not so high so reflect is countered by cwdt + immortal call + 3 endu charge.

My armor is not the best for this build but i do not have better right now. ( lightning coil is good if you drop warlord's mark and a doedre ring)


to reload my frenzy charges
+ frenzy + faster attack, note i usually have this frenzy gem in my boots but i swapped to give xp to a cold damage one.

guess what? even with +1K hp and without abyssus, physical damage is a pain in the ass if i'm not carefull, i often die to volatile blood and similar shit. It's an already ultra squishy glass cannon build. I'm sure of it 3500 hp is NOT enough to survive decently in maps after t10.
I will never be good but always I try to improve.
Last edited by Geisalt#1772 on Apr 13, 2016, 1:10:50 PM
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3500 Hp??, and with abyssus? What's the hell, even a 5K hp toon with LC+ abyssus gets recked when hurt by big physical hits. you do not block attacks, only have 40% dodge...

It's a freakin suicide man. Pitifull...

and the dps is NOT that high, 528 000 fully buffed with pots.

The clear speed is alright, because flicker strike clear speed is insane. The build itself is just a suicide fest for t10+ maps ( crematorium boss will two shot you if you are not lucky, gorge boss will 3 shots you if you do not kill it fast enough, village ruin boss is of course undoable but a lot of ppls avoid it, argus is doable because it's slow).


3500 hp is not "life" based, it's "i pick up some nodes to not get killed by white monsters".
If you meet a volatile blood monster, you will be oneshooted on kill.

40% dodge 30% spell dodge 17% block is too low with 3500 hp. LC + abyssus counter each other and give a little room to breath but it's not enough.

Of course it's budget. But it's not viable in high maps and when could be.


Mkay, gonna admit, i didn't even bother reading your full post after seeing this much.

Personally, i have 3300 hp, i get 750k fully buffed, i full cleared a gorge map without tast of hate or enhance, and a 3L flicker: flicker, multistrike, and melee splash. (i tried to record a proof of concept video, but my pc isnt up to running recording software D:)

750k dps is enough to one shot most mobs in most maps (aside from the few tanky ones that can take a hit of over 83k and live)

Volatile blood is only a problem in: negative max resist or elemental weakess (dependent on you gear/overcap). Outside of those map mods, Volatile blood is a non-issue.

Crematorium is a cake walk, including the boss, many deathless runs with random map mods.

Village Ruin is RNG based, on weather or not you get pinned by the chicken, and where you are when he uses the rain of arrows. I've killed them on flicker, but it was sketchy. The mechanics of village ruin bosses are not conducive to the mechanics of flicker strike on ANY build, as the chicken pins you, stopping your flicker and whirling blades.

Argus is doable because you have evasion, dodge, block, smoke clouds, etc. Also, whirling blades away when you see an attack animation. Don't get hit. This is a glass cannon build, you have to dodge (skill based dodge i mean, not dodge chance)

I can confirm that this build is viable up to tier 14 maps. I've killed Palace Dom, Conservatory Oversauls, and Piety all deathless. I haven't had many T15s so i cant say how Daresso, Kaom, and Malachi will go. I tend to do those on my summoner just to avoid any risk as it is a glass cannon build. (i don't buy maps)

I've killed Regular Atziri (Atziri herself is the hard part, everything up to that is a 2 minute clear). I wouldn't however say i can reliably kill her as i personally suck at dodging her spells, but to a more skilled player, it is 100% doable deathless.

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In Perandus League with a budget version of the build, tier 12 maps are doable. Our Guild's Tier 13+ maps were saved for guaranteed risk free builds that can full clear anything deathless, including things like Twinned Core and Alluring Abyss.
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Geisalt wrote:
3500 Hp??, and with abyssus? What's the hell, even a 5K hp toon with LC+ abyssus gets recked when hurt by big physical hits. you do not block attacks, only have 40% dodge...

It's a freakin suicide man. Pitifull...

and the dps is NOT that high, 528 000 fully buffed with pots.

The clear speed is alright, because flicker strike clear speed is insane. The build itself is just a suicide fest for t10+ maps ( crematorium boss will two shot you if you are not lucky, gorge boss will 3 shots you if you do not kill it fast enough, village ruin boss is of course undoable but a lot of ppls avoid it, argus is doable because it's slow).

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Yeah, you are wrong. I play a dual wield version of this build, which varies very little from the tree posted here. Volatile blood, not a problem. Anything else you thought was an issue, isn't. You want to post your crappy build, go make your own thread.

The whole point of this build is to kill shit quickly, and it achieves that goal in wonderful fashion.

Don't go away mad, just go away.
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