[3.0] Legasi's Masterpiece - Trivialize Bossfights! Shaper Deathless! Boss Guides inside! HC

Another option, for rich people, would be to grab lots of jewel sockets instead of dmg clusters
This way it's possible to either take Dmg + Area + Chaos or Dmg + Area + Fire, depending on the situation. It doesn't sound like a lot, but at 8 jewels it's about +96% fire and it makes a difference for stuff like Chimera / Hydra who are poison immune.

Of course if you are rich enough to get 8 jewels like those, then you are rich enough to get a Taming - which is way better than the above alone for Chimera / Hydra though it would still benefit from many jewels for stacking +% ignite chance and without dedicating 20 passives for it in the fire clusters.

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Hey all, just a quick question for anyone willing to answer....what am I doing wrong? Lol

Followed the guide to a T! With my consuming dark and a shield, my firestorm damage tool tip is only 1.7k and I got destroyed by the minotaur. Was using Wither, Cwc, firestorm, CD, increased duration and void manipulation. 13k energy shield base without vaal disc. My life leech is solid but I just didn't do any damage!

Is a second consuming dark the answer? When I swap out CD for Conc and use a second dagger my tool tip goes to 3k unbuffed.

Any help is appreciated and thanks for a great guide.

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Hmm. Thanks very much for the quick reply.

I will say that I agree with your points but I did watch a video of a guy named minimized who uses this same exact build and he took down the minotaur in 10 seconds total. Complete meltage, so that's what I was expecting. He used 2 daggers.

I managed to get my ES to just over 10k with 2 consuming darks and I got 2 with block corruptions so even without a shield I'm at 26% chance to block. Gonna give it another try later and will report back how I do vs using a shield. Will also tweak my gem setup a bit as you mentioned.

Thanks again and any other additional feedback is welcomed.

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Okay first off... while I appreciate people helping to answer questions please for the love of god only do so if you 100% know what you're talking about. Xirce, no offense, you do not. Otherwise it will only create more confusion.

Now answering posts in backward order:

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This build is first and foremost a tank. Defence takes priority.
Minimized's build is the exact opposite, an all in "pseude glasscannon" with all the damage availabe in the tree. So for anyone wondering why the yt vids do not show comparable killspeed, guess why?! Please stop saying it's the same build ffs.

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Best bosskilling supports are in that order: Conc Effect - Void Mani - Inc Dur
Best QOL setup is Ele Focus - Contr Dest - Void Manip

Xirce please read up on increased vs more and then have a close look at the VM gem again.

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Mopstah please make your character tab public or I won't be able to help you much.

What were the map mods?
Why didn't you swap in Conc Effect?
How does your character deal with stuns?

If I had to guess I'd say between not using Conc Effect and not having a maxed out build you damage was simply too low to keep you at the 20% of total es per second leech cap, resulting in a loss of tankyness.

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Xirce wrote:

You dont need to respec your tree and you dont need to be rich to handle chaos immune bosses like Hydra.

Replace your Consuming Dark dagger with Doryani's Catalyst (5 Chaos). It buffs your fire damage alot and now you only convert 15% fire into chaos damage.

You shouldnt worry about ignite, it doesent stack, only the hardest hitting ignite does damage at a given time. You already have 5% chance and 100% on a crit. With the amount of hits from a firestorm ignite should be up 100% of time. If not, there is a Chance to Ignite support gem.

I would replace Wither with a low lvl Scorching Ray, because it provides fire penetration.
Since a Fire Penetration gem is red, it cant be used and Elemental Focus shouldnt be used because it would prevent ignite. Concentrated Effect is a must for more damage and more hits on the target.

If you want to stack ignite, you need to use the Emberwake ring, but it reduce burn damage by 80% which means its better suited for a special build.

This is just so wrong. Everything. Please delete that post.

Hydra/Chimera are not immune to Chaos damage. They are immune to poison.
So why would you give up all the chaos damage scaling from the tree and Wither? Just kill the Hydra/Chimera with direct chaos damage. Afaik those bosses have 40% fire res and 25% chaos res, which is reduced to 5% from Void Beacon. Not converting to chaos does not only gimp your damage a lot, it also requires the use of a fire penetration gem.

Ignites are completely irrelevant even in a regular Firestorm build. Ignites caused by the tiny individual hits hardly matter even compared to the sheer amount of those direct damage hits.
You should definitely use Ele Focus gem.
On a sidenote, Scorching Ray does not provide fire penetration, it provides fire resistance reduction.

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Xirce please read up on double dipping. Fire damage does not double dip. Chaos damage does. Guess why this build is grabbing so much chaos damage?!

Hey, take a look at my character tab now. Should be public. To answer your questions, the map mods were easy lol. I didn't use Conc because.... I forgot lol. But look at my gear. It's pretty good. With my shield I had 13.5k ES.

I use vaal pact and I was leeching HARD. My ES was up and down like a yo yo until the rocks finally put me out of my misery.

I'm at 10k es while dual wielding and still at 26% block since I got 2 nicely corrupted consuming darks. I'm going to try that later and I expect the dps will be a lot better.

I am cursing on hit with temp chains on my gloves corruption and casting enfeeble with Cwdt on my offhand.

Perhaps conc would have done it for me. And it was my first try with this build after swapping over as a summoner so I'm sure I'll get better at the mechanics as I play the build more.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Would be greatly appreciated!

I'll make one thing clear since it's obviously not obvious for everyone (Xirce...):
When I'm speaking about The Taming or about dealing ignite damage with Firestorm, always assume it's in conjunction with Emberwake. Without it it doesn't deal any meaningful damage and therefore doesn't make any sense at all.

On a side note, this one more for Legasi,
For Hydra / Chimera, with Emberwake it can actually be about as good or better to switch to Ray CwC FS CE RD CtI, depending on tree variations and/or Taming. If you go for it then I recommend to grab a VoV, as they aren't shock proof and it double-dips.


Then, about dual-wielding Consuming Dark...
It's a good idea, potentially, but also a very expensive one. Let me explain:
With dual CD, in order not to be too squishy, I recommend a Vaal Regalia with twin T1 ES rolls instead of the mantle.
Mantle + Shield = about 1000-1200 ES. A good Vaal Regalia is about 900-1100 ES.
The regalia solution is more expensive... But is it better? Let's list pros and cons:
+ dual knife looks appropriate on the psycho witch
+ 60% conversion total instead of 45%
+ +25%inc dmg than the mantle solution
+ 15% more attack speed for whirl
+ no low mana problem, we can use it for a blasphemy or something
- -40% crit compared to mantle (even worse if we consider crit mod on shield)
- no +1 lvl to fire gems
- vaal regalia is ugly, requires skin transfer to preserve eye sanity
My spreadsheet tells me it gives 25% more damage. This combined with the possible blasphemy (super useful for atziri but not only) + more whirl speed, overall it looks better.

Sorry for bringing so much confusion in to the discussion.

I thought i knew what i was talking about,
but obviously i am not an expert yet.

I hope it makes you happy to see that all my posts are deleted.