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Tunechis wrote:
any idea how hc tree would look like? :)
I'm not a hardcore hc player, so you should ask a hc player about that. Probably moving to armour and getting a wachkload more life.
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Posted bysklipnoty#7673on Dec 13, 2015, 12:26:05 PM
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k33s69 wrote:
Hey! I like your build. But going to dodge in high maps can be angry because we "melee".
Why not this?
Just go Iron Reflexes and put some shield nodes for go 1h + shield. With that we can go more tanky. Dual wield, viable option but i prefer mitigate some dmg. I dont know how good is dual wield blocking attacks in higher maps.
And go for:
Head: Abyssus
Hands: Maligaro
Boots: Armor, Life, resist, m. speed.
Belt: Phys dmg, life, resist.
Chest: Armor (high armor, life, resist). Maybe Daresso for more life leech and onslaught.
6L: Cyclone - COC - Bladefall - EK - Power charge on critical - Increased Critical Strikes (?)
Well your tree is amour based and the build I put forward here is evasion based. Although I'm pretty sure what you suggest could work, it's not what I want to pursue. If eventually I find I die too much in end-game maps (lv 78 + - dont' know what tier that is exactly.), I might have to entertain such an idea. But for now full ev and dodge is good engough.
Boots: Armor, Life, resist, m. speed.
Belt: Phys dmg, life, resist.
This for sure! Perhaps even blood dance for frenzies.
Chest: Well the viable options are either lightning coil, daresso's or a belly. (perhaps even a +1 tabula although that's a little too dangerous.)
Honestly If I hit 6k life, dodge will work fine in end-game maps. Espcially if we have a IC for the though spots. I don't like abyssus because of the extra damage so for now that's not an option.
Maligro's is certainly viable, to bad it's going to be expensive as fuck ...
Anyway the build is made for people on the new league...
I'm leaning towards using daresso's for endu charges, pcoc for power charges, frenzy charges with the blaphemy. Also using hatred right now which pretty much doubled. The only thing I have to do is cap my resistances.
In case of lightning coil I would def. go with phy to lightning
Cyclone - COC - Bladefall - EK - Power charge on critical - Phy to lightning
Daresso's :
Cyclone - COC - EK - PCoC - BF - (Moore Meele Phy / Phy to light / Added fire / ... ? )
Basically all these increase dmg by a shit ton, possibly even more than multi. Although I would have to test that.
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Tunechis wrote:
Hi
can this be played in hc?
Without heavily modifying it ? No this is not hc viable...
Thanks for the answers, im thinking try EVA version and then if fail, change to armor in future.
And then how do you think on uses Phase Run for movement and enter in the battle? If running 6 frenzies this adds melee physical dmg and good movement speed. And 80% "ninja" mode.
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Posted byk33s69#4739on Dec 13, 2015, 1:09:43 PM
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That might be good for owning bosses! Good idea; Don't really have much experience with phase run. So let me know if that works out :)
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Posted bysklipnoty#7673on Dec 13, 2015, 2:26:12 PM
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Guide updated. New video online.
Damage is good, high phys attacks are a problem. Although manual dodging works :)
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Posted bysklipnoty#7673on Dec 14, 2015, 5:39:30 PM
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I like your idea, right now I'm running maps at level 70 and the clear speed and survivability is pretty decent. Like someone said earlier I went into iron reflexes and I'm just using twin daggers since twin terror was on the way. I'm using bladefall right now as well but my crit is high enough I'm thinking about switching over.
Just wanted to say thanks for the idea
Oh also, I don't know if you've seen the video, but for awhile I was running dual hit as my single target against bosses, but if you drop a deadhand talisman they will spawn leeches and you can end up just killing single targets even faster that way. I thought it was neat.
Last edited by Placebo334#1996 on Dec 14, 2015, 7:05:35 PM
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Posted byPlacebo334#1996on Dec 14, 2015, 7:01:19 PM
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Placebo334 wrote:
I like your idea, right now I'm running maps at level 70 and the clear speed and survivability is pretty decent. Like someone said earlier I went into iron reflexes and I'm just using twin daggers since twin terror was on the way. I'm using bladefall right now as well but my crit is high enough I'm thinking about switching over.
Just wanted to say thanks for the idea
Oh also, I don't know if you've seen the video, but for awhile I was running dual hit as my single target against bosses, but if you drop a deadhand talisman they will spawn leeches and you can end up just killing single targets even faster that way. I thought it was neat.
I've encountered some deaths due to not mitigating anything.
For now I'm going to spec into vitality and spirit void and see if that fixes it together with vaal pact and probably warlords mark as main curse. If that doesn't fix it, well armour it will be :).
Due to cyclone we mostly don't get hit at all, but there are moments we do ... and they suck.
Twin terror also seems nice but I've always found shield was the better choice for end-game. Little extra health, ... Anyway my health pool is sitting at 2.6-2.7k atm which is tooo low...
Thx for the feedback :)
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Posted bysklipnoty#7673on Dec 14, 2015, 7:25:04 PM
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Tunechis wrote:
any idea how hc tree would look like? :)
Take the health wheel written in blood dont go to witch area dont pick spell crit and you have hc viable
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Posted byblocker2#0942on Dec 14, 2015, 7:54:24 PM
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To be honest i think this build will lack alot of dmg endgame.
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Posted byBomz#2000on Dec 15, 2015, 7:27:22 AM
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Bomz wrote:
To be honest i think this build will lack alot of dmg endgame.
Seeing that everything I have shown here ends-up using a 4 link. I think the biggest damage improvements are still in the future. Better dagger, better shield, level 20 gems;
It's also very hard to quantify the damage of a coc build.
Anyway I clear up to tier 2 without much hiccups. (also did some tier 3's no problems)
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Posted bysklipnoty#7673on Dec 16, 2015, 7:17:16 AM
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What do you suggest as 5th link? As i generate shitload of charges i was thinking about discharge.. do u have any suggestions?
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Posted byNooBikos#7327on Dec 16, 2015, 9:17:53 AM
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