High level solo experience grinding is so fun. Dying sucks.

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SevSaint wrote:

yep you need more health and defense.
At level 80 2.5k or more plus a good defense node is needed for solo. Look at some hard core builds and see if you can get an idea.
I only have about 15 nodes offense on tree, rest is defense and ability points to get defense. I plan on getting every health node run full evasion. a good chest piece is 1k plus on evasion.

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Sizzlebuzz wrote:

What am I doing with my life?

making me think about how much time I really just lost with nothing to show for it.

tl;dr

Who cares.

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Sizzlebuzz wrote:

Now first off, let me say that I am actually a fan of grinding for experience. But, being close to level 80, the experience has completely shut off from regular zones. Meaning I can really only get experience from map zones.

So after a lot of farming and some luck, I was able to obtain a few map drops. I enter maps and get more maps, sometimes I die, usually due to being insta-pwned by a mob of rangers when I walk through a door, or a huge mob of ice/puncture/fast moving enemies that decide they really don't want me to move while they kill me.

The game is how the game is I guess, is it fair, not really. Maybe I should have learned not to progress through the level and stand at the entrance with a huge feeling of accomplishment for making it there. But that's not me.

Now being a solo player, my gear isn't the best, but my resistances are all 75% (aside from chaos, and I take special note of chaos damage enemies). My melee physical blocks 31% and I have 2200 hp (130-140% hp nodes), so I consider myself decently built to survive. My dps is awful for my level, many rangers double it while being a lower level than me. I can't play in a group unless I want to play at 1 fps.

So here I am soloing map after map, dying and raging about how I am going to quit this game because I have lost so much time with nothing to show for it. But every once in a while, enemies aren't too bad and I get lucky on the insta-pwn cases and end up surviving with 100 hp or less, and I get a good 50% experience without a death. Feels pretty good to make some progress.

Anyway, I enter the dungeon knowing the boss is a brutus/kole enemy. I am prepared and enter the boss room. I proceed down the hallway and make it to the door leading to the chamber with the boss and his minions resting inside. I throw down some bear traps at the entrance, throw out my totem and begin to range the boss as he pulls and kills my totem.

He makes to the door and I back up to about the start-mid of the hallway, I throw out another totem and some traps while readying my frenzy charges and I die.

Nothing is around me, anywhere. I see the boss walk up to my corpse and attack my totem, indicating he was indeed far enough away to be unable to hit me with a melee wave that would kill me like something just did.

Pissed and defeated I make my way back to the map (the boss is standing alone right where he left me, so it was indeed him who killed me due to what I assume was the worst type of desync), enter the chamber and kill the boss. Yes! 1% back from clearing him and everything else in the room, I must have been close to an experience percentage raise. I look at the pile of blues the boss drops, not wanting to even walk near any of the junk as I might step in it and get it all over my shoes. I leave. Alt+tab, and come to the forums.

All the while I have been thinking to myself.. man, do I love spending several hours clearing solo maps just to lose about 30% of that experience in a split second due to something I can't control (most of the time). Only 3-4 good level maps which I don't have to get that experience back. So much fun, so super fun.

What am I doing with my life?

Thanks GGG for making an experience penalty so high that it pulls me out of gaming and back into reality by making me think about how much time I really just lost with nothing to show for it. Please change experience penalty.

tl;dr

Who cares.

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bhavv wrote:

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SevSaint wrote:

yep you need more health and defense.
At level 80 2.5k or more plus a good defense node is needed for solo. Look at some hard core builds and see if you can get an idea.
I only have about 15 nodes offense on tree, rest is defense and ability points to get defense. I plan on getting every health node run full evasion. a good chest piece is 1k plus on evasion.

But on that point, I disagree strongly that someone should have to spend 80% of their passive points purely on defense just to be able to play the game.

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bhavv wrote:

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SevSaint wrote:

yep you need more health and defense.
At level 80 2.5k or more plus a good defense node is needed for solo. Look at some hard core builds and see if you can get an idea.
I only have about 15 nodes offense on tree, rest is defense and ability points to get defense. I plan on getting every health node run full evasion. a good chest piece is 1k plus on evasion.

But on that point, I disagree strongly that someone should have to spend 80% of their passive points purely on defense just to be able to play the game.

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Windays wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

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SevSaint wrote:

yep you need more health and defense.
At level 80 2.5k or more plus a good defense node is needed for solo. Look at some hard core builds and see if you can get an idea.
I only have about 15 nodes offense on tree, rest is defense and ability points to get defense. I plan on getting every health node run full evasion. a good chest piece is 1k plus on evasion.

But on that point, I disagree strongly that someone should have to spend 80% of their passive points purely on defense just to be able to play the game.

Agree.

First thing I noticed at OB launch was that the game felt a lot more difficult in a facerolling mobs simply hit like trucks kind of way. Having played for awhile and building quite a few characters and getting them up to 55+, I'm seeing that building full defensive is the only way to go. It's getting to the point that every build I make, I'm simply picking the same defensive nodes up just in different places. out of 70-80 passive points, maybe 10 or so are interchangeable.

I think the desync issue is probably the biggest factor in most deaths, I know it has been in most of mine. When you're getting hit 3 screens away by something you're running from and it's not on screen and you have 65-70% move speed, There's nothing you can do. Hopefully they fix it and can then better balance the game.

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Sizzlebuzz wrote:

As for map affixes, I don't even pay attention to them, they're blue, more magic, blood magic, extra damage. I believe the map I died in was a elemental equilibrium map.

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Sizzlebuzz wrote:

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KrO wrote:

Your time is never fully wasted, you are also farming for gear, currency, not just XP. If you feel like you hit a brick wall, getting frustrated then re-roll a new charcter. No need to rush to 100, just take your time dude.

No, I feel like my time was wasted rather. I am farming for one thing, and that is a lioneye bow. The currency I obtain from even a month of farming may not even be enough to get one. The rares I get are never good, and people are always trying to rip people off when it comes to trading. If this isn't time wasted, I don't know what is.