[2.0] Fire Lord (1M+ peak dps)(CI, Incinerate, VMS, Pledge, Scold's Bridle, Emberwake, Taming)

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Malone wrote:

your gem setup on Pledge so horrible... seriously it's just bad.
Any build using mana leech gem is just a waste honestly.

For comparison, I have roughly the same tooltip dps in a 4L ( I am using IIR/IIQ gems ), but per totem. So basically the double of you.

Hmm, thats just... I have no words honestly.

I know there are ways how to improve tooltip dps on incinerate, for example I could switch faster projectiles with Fire Penetration. But Fire Penetration on Incinerate does nothing for VMS. Faster Projectiles is great utility gem improving my clear speed. Tne difference between running with it and without it is diametral. You have better dps tooltip? Great! Too bad you have to move to every third mob because he is out of range or you have to wait for him to come closer.

Or I could switch LMP with Slower Projectiles... again not needed. Going without LMP in map is absurd I think we all agree on this fact. And for bosses? Not needed - AT ALL.

On top of that, LMP and Faster Projectiles improve faster casting with their quality. Faster casting is by far absolutely best stat for this build.

I know it is possible to do this build with mana regen because I actualy did it. Tooltip dmg was better true. But the pain with every second map roll being lower regen/no regen was just not worth it.

BTW: I honestly believe that amount of passives/jewels/jewelry which u can invest to something else when running Mana Leech is equal to free gem slot when running mana regen. I prefer Mana Leech because of comfort which is tied with it.

I see absolutely no point of use of VMS or the burning when you can reach close to 200k dps without them, 99 % of mobs are dying almost instantly, including most of the boss in few sec. Especially Emberwake, I am still convinced it's shit.

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Malone wrote:

I see absolutely no point of use of VMS or the burning when you can reach close to 200k dps without them, 99 % of mobs are dying almost instantly, including most of the boss in few sec. Especially Emberwake, I am still convinced it's shit.

That's true... but I do this build because I can and because it seems interesting to me.

According to your logic I should just sell all items, respec all passives and just copy best build guide out there with whatever skill is used.

Also this build (amongst other VMS builds) is actually least utilizing VMS. All gems in Incinerate provide me some additional benefits apart from benefits to VMS.

what the hell is that Wasteland boss.. it was like a white mob for you :D

I don't get why you use The Taming... all it adds is 5% ignite and 25% fire/spell dmg plus a bunch of res, that is it.
Arguably even Mokou's Embrace with 10% ignite and other high rolls is better and costs almost nothing.

^^ did you even read the item descriptions, the taming 10% inc damage per ignite, emberwake you can inflict multiple ignites.
Personally im not sure if the taming and emberwake are working properly, i tried it out on dual inc totems but the dmg inc seems minimal.

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Fhark wrote:

^^ did you even read the item descriptions, the taming 10% inc damage per ignite, emberwake you can inflict multiple ignites.
Personally im not sure if the taming and emberwake are working properly, i tried it out on dual inc totems but the dmg inc seems minimal.

I did red the description. However, does it really work like that?
My understanding was that it gets you 10% per status effect.
There are no ways to inflick multiple shocks / freezes, and recently there was no way to inflict multiple ignites.

So does the ring actually work as you described or as I described (30% increase max when shocked, ignited and frozen)

I don't really know any reliable way to test this since all bosses die before first placed ignite start running out of duration (6.3s in my case), so the time window is just too small.

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Also, this setup seems to be terrible for VMS specifically.
OP doesn't have any extended skill duration clusters, doesn't use Inc AoE and Increased Duration on VMS, which are all mandatory to have a good uptime and clearspeed. Withot all these, VMS becomes just a gimmick.

And, OP reaches 21,28 (echoed casts per sec) / 2 = 10,64 activations of VMS / s
While on my build in a 5L without pledge I managed to have 11.5 casts per sec without Echo, so more VMS activations.

This is more of an Incinerate build with VMS slapped on just to kill bosses.

It prob is, as i said im not really sure its working and since inc kills so fast its hard to tell i swapped over to the taming and didnt notice much with dual totems and noticed a much slower kill time swapping a lvl 19 inc for a lvl 16 with quality (so inc dmg trumping everything else).

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Shajirr wrote:

Also, this setup seems to be terrible for VMS specifically.
OP doesn't have any extended skill duration clusters, doesn't use Inc AoE and Increased Duration on VMS, which are all mandatory to have a good uptime and clearspeed. Withot all these, VMS becomes just a gimmick.

OP and I actually had some discussion about exactly this a few pages before. Well I finally took my own advice and created my own version of this build. The main difference is that I use:

as well as 90% skill duration and 3x sac harvest. More details are here.

That changes coming to Posion :D Muhahaha