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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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enveratise wrote:
But yeah, was the build that unreasonable?
yes it was
every single person complaining that this was nerfed or waffling on about GGG nerfing viable skills again needs to get a brain and learn how to use it, or maybe just understand what theyre talking about before they open their mouth.
It needed nerfed, probably harder than it did get nerfed, seriously you people just love to get your pitchforks out and dont give a shit if what you are saying is absurd, its what you want to believe and anything you can grasp at to justify it you go straight into nonsensevile.
Stop it, its not healthy for you, its not healthy for the game, you obviously dont know what you are talking about so just admit that to yourselves and pipe down.
edit: this 50ex talk too is a joke, oh build cost 50ex and was many factors more ridiculous than one that costs 1000ex, such high investment, give me a break it shouldnt have ever existed in the state it was in regardless of all the exalts in standard league going into it.
GGG took the easy way out and just nerfed the symptom instead of the culprit.
You know what i mean, it was a poor move by GGG. And it punished the wrong mechanic being utilized.
Peace,
-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Posted byBoem#2861on Feb 27, 2015, 2:31:27 PMOn Probation
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Na it was a good move. Where are the 14 other builds boem?
Plz deliver,
-Wretch-
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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Posted byTheWretch#7848on Feb 27, 2015, 2:32:45 PM
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TheWretch wrote:
Na it was a good move. Where are the 14 other builds boem?
Plz deliver,
-Wretch-
I'll do it happily, but not for free, you gotta do some work first.
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Krayken wrote:
You implied that there was 14 other builds that could one shot 6 man lvl 78 maps like the one that was just nerfed. That build did it with 4linked white bow. I just want you to share those other 14 builds that can do the same with similar cost in gear.
He didn't use a 4l bow in the 6p courtyard video. Also are we really saying 2 6ls are dirt cheap now?
Care to add up the price of his gear used in that video. I suspect it's the gear labeled "current testing gear in standard (used in most of the videos)" in "the gear" spoiler.
I'll give you the 20/20 gems for free, assuming all builds got them through leveling, the 2 6ls though, lvl 4 empower, ya....
So add up fair market price of his items, I'll let you do it so don't question my values. Then I'll see what builds fall into it.
Also because you're throwing on qualifiers, are we counting all CoC builds as one, classified by weapon, by triggered spells, build focuses, life, CI, LL, hybrid? Gotta break those up somehow as I've personally done 3 radically different CoC builds that were all high lvl viable.
To be honest I think I can think of 5 or so builds I've done personally that can do high lvl maps for similar cost. My most expensive build ever was under 100 ex.
Get me a price, define what makes builds different from each other, as I could just say CoC and there's easily 14 builds that fit. Stuff like flameblast could easily be turned into a few as well, MoM/EB, CI, crit, etc.
Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th
Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th
Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063
Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856
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Posted byMoosifer#0314on Feb 27, 2015, 2:41:37 PMAlpha Member
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Xavderion wrote:
So you think it's okay for a build to solo oneshot everything in a 6 man lvl 78 map?
No offense but if that's your "base-line" approach, GGG needs to nerf about 14 other builds/skill combination/mechanics.
People have been one-shotting screens in a 6-man party for over a year now and as long as it was because of a reasonable investment it seemed to me it was "deemed okay".
Peace,
-Boem-
Boem, I'm going to tell you what. I think the moment any build is soloing 6-man level 78s, the game should use the "win" fireworks animation and take you directly to the character selection screen.
You win
Any build that does this...any of them should be nerfed to the ground.
*edit* Maybe the new build milestone instead of gorge clears should be enfeebled, 6 man, Courtyards power creep being what it is.
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Posted byBarivius#3037on Feb 27, 2015, 2:42:37 PM
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Moosifer wrote:
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VictorDoom wrote:
this cheap movement build still faceroll and carry groups 78s for under 100ex... even after 80% nerf, such ridiculous expectation and reaction.
for those still bhurt use some of that 'creativity' for real and do a melee build under 100 ex to faceroll and carry 78s, see how that goes
Hopefully people STOP sharing ALL builds that can clear quickly and carry 78's. Especially stop sharing the cheap ones.
You put the wrong name in quotes. I was so fucking confused, vic is usually pretty rational and the guy you're actually quoting is just a troll.
Nope.
Dark_Chicken - lvl 100 Marauder
Divine_Chicken - lvl 100 Duelist Last edited by Dark_Chicken#5481 on Mar 29, 2015, 3:35:07 PM
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Posted byDark_Chicken#5481on Feb 27, 2015, 2:44:25 PM
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Barivius wrote:
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Boem wrote:
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Xavderion wrote:
So you think it's okay for a build to solo oneshot everything in a 6 man lvl 78 map?
No offense but if that's your "base-line" approach, GGG needs to nerf about 14 other builds/skill combination/mechanics.
People have been one-shotting screens in a 6-man party for over a year now and as long as it was because of a reasonable investment it seemed to me it was "deemed okay".
Peace,
-Boem-
Boem, I'm going to tell you what. I think the moment any build is soloing 6-man level 78s, the game should use the "win" fireworks animation and take you directly to the character selection screen.
You win
Any build that does this...any of them should be nerfed to the ground.
*edit* Maybe the new build milestone instead of gorge clears should be enfeebled, 6 man, Courtyards power creep being what it is.
I completely agree with you, which was my underlying point.
People have attained the status of cleaning an entire screen solo in 6-man party's roughly a year ago.
Which makes that argument invalid when discussing this particular build/nerf.
Because like i mentioned, then so should all those other builds be nerfed to the ground irrelevant of gear cost, but simply based on end-result. In this case, carying a 6-man party in the hardest content.
Peace,
-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Posted byBoem#2861on Feb 27, 2015, 2:47:14 PMOn Probation
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The_Speculator wrote:
Either you're blind or just a typical egotistical jerk because of your status, lvl or whatever. I dont have those flashy tags, Im not super oldschool or im not e-cool enough around here so because I point out the same things and agree with others who is more eloquent or have the status, im a troll.
You just said in another thread to compete on 78 maps you need mirrored or legacy items. You do not understand the real complaint that's drawing us to this thread, you just see us as people complaining a broken build got nerfed. Honestly, either you're dumb or a troll, I at least gave you credit with the assumption this was on purpose.
Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th
Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th
Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063
Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856
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Posted byMoosifer#0314on Feb 27, 2015, 2:49:27 PMAlpha Member
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too bad, I was looking forward to seeing these mystical 14 builds of yours. im sure they're very cool
Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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Posted byTheWretch#7848on Feb 27, 2015, 2:50:20 PM
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Moosifer wrote:
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The_Speculator wrote:
Either you're blind or just a typical egotistical jerk because of your status, lvl or whatever. I dont have those flashy tags, Im not super oldschool or im not e-cool enough around here so because I point out the same things and agree with others who is more eloquent or have the status, im a troll.
You just said in another thread to compete on 78 maps you need mirrored or legacy items. You do not understand the real complaint that's drawing us to this thread, you just see us as people complaining a broken build got nerfed. Honestly, either you're dumb or a troll, I at least gave you credit with the assumption this was on purpose.
Thats not what I said at all. You dont seem to understand any counter args at all.
Dark_Chicken - lvl 100 Marauder
Divine_Chicken - lvl 100 Duelist
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Posted byDark_Chicken#5481on Feb 27, 2015, 2:56:39 PM
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Boem wrote:
People have attained the status of cleaning an entire screen solo in 6-man party's roughly a year ago.
With a white 5L bow ? no way.
IGN TylordRampage
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Posted byMalone#6946on Feb 27, 2015, 2:57:24 PM
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