Play Low Life without Shav/Solaris, play as you want.

...But you're wearing a shavs! XD

I was talking about using Life Regen to sustain your small life pool. since Most chaos damage deals DOT damage or are easily mitigated, any decent amount of Life Regen and you won't need Shavs anymore. :P

interesting setup going RF PA though. or is that just for bosses? :P

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enveratise wrote:

...But you're wearing a shavs! XD

I was talking about using Life Regen to sustain your small life pool. since Most chaos damage deals DOT damage or are easily mitigated, any decent amount of Life Regen and you won't need Shavs anymore. :P

interesting setup going RF PA though. or is that just for bosses? :P

Not sure if you're playing around, but that chest is actually just a troll mantle skinned with a real 6l shavs. I get 75% chaos res, and with vitality and the shaper regen node I don't die to most degens, even with blood rage up. I posted more a few pages back, but basically immortal flesh gives you more degen protection as well a larger life pool in general, but -max applies to chaos res so you take 20% more chaos damage. The regen more than offsets increases in degen damage, but chaos burst damage could be an issue (i.e. powerful crit chaos bombers). Not to mention you'll lose your other resistances from your belt slot.

As for the rf, it's used to cheese bosses and open/linear maps like gorge where I can just chain flasks from crits. Atziri loses all her health before going into split phase for the first time with the rf on.

I was using the blood dance boots with 6 frenzy charges and the 1% node on the ranger with stun avoidance for my set-up and a vitality.


I was actually using a troll mantle as-well 5-linked but i sold it at the end of that league and put in a filler.

And bino's also gave me a hefty regen buff, i could stand inside poison mines, the only tricky part was a poison mine crit explosion (the explosion not the degen value). But for harsher maps you simply remove an aura to have a bit more life available to buffer.

Also it was a blood magic low life build, so my attacks also cost me life :).

Was good fun do.

Peace,

-Boem-

I don't understand how can you play low life with just stacking CR. It will still bypass ES and since you went lowlife, you're gonna have very low HP pool(probably 300-400), and even if you manage to get 80% Res for somehow you will still gonna die.

@Goatse: Ah, just skimmed through the entire thread. How often do you experience large bursts of chaos damage anyway? I can probably think of two sources that can naturally do Chaos Damage.
and I can probably say with high enough regen, all map mod based sources of chaos damage like Desecrated Ground and Poison on Hit will probably be mitigated. I've only tested on the former though.

with what Boem said regards to the poison traps by those undying mobs... won't they just be destroyed if you use an AOE skill like Tendrils or GC or Lightningh Ball or Flameblast or... yeah.

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Kunaak wrote:

this game is completely held back in 1 sense.

low life builds are dominated by the shavs.
the solaris is a junk item that isn't even worth taking a look at...

as long as theres no good alternatives to the shavs, its like this will be sitting by the wayside rather untouched.

shavs is a perfect example of a item that isn't "build defining" but "build killing", cause so few can afford one, so its just not an option for 99% of the player base, so any item that provides buffs at low life is basically ignored.

what shavs does - should be a key node, and not a gear thing.

Word m8, word!!

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enveratise wrote:

I'm not really comfortable with having only 280 HP if you're running no shavs LL. Hell, before I rerolled I even got killed by the miscreation unique mob during the domi fight.

did you have some Life Regen of any sort? Really makes me wanna consider running Immortal Flesh lol

You either aren't being fast enough (or sustaining enough) with your flask usage, or your chaos resist isn't maxed. 280 HP is enough. The only chaos damage i die to even with 300hp is Blood Rage because i'm full yoloing with vaal pact and sometimes forget to turn it off when my flasks are empty.

In certain builds you may have to carry a life flask. That's just a thing you have to deal with.

I had think to do something like this but with Cyclone, Marohi Erqi and Death's Oath Marauder Build. Using Blood Rage also. It would be a kind of "you get close you die" build. Posted it in the forum to try and start a discussion but nobody chimed in so I though it was a bad idea and didn't go for it.

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Xendran wrote:

You either aren't being fast enough (or sustaining enough) with your flask usage, or your chaos resist isn't maxed. 280 HP is enough. The only chaos damage i die to even with 300hp is Blood Rage because i'm full yoloing with vaal pact and sometimes forget to turn it off when my flasks are empty.

In certain builds you may have to carry a life flask. That's just a thing you have to deal with.

Yeah, I'm not really good with playing around with my flasks. I use them more as panic buttons rather than an actual means to sustain against degen.:P It's the same with Soul Mantle: it's totally viable with flasks as well, but I'd rather have a passive way of dealing with them (in this case via life regen) rather than having to keep an eye out for two kinds of life bars and your battlefield positioning as well.

I'm a freaking casual that way. :P

I definately prefer MoM/EB builds rather than Shav builds...