Play Low Life without Shav/Solaris, play as you want.

People have been doing low life without shavs/lorica for a long time. Just use your flasks properly. You need 3 items with chaos resist, one of which is The Vertex which offers other great benefits and a very reasonable chunk of ES. The other can be your boots, because there are no truly OMGMUSTHAVE unique boots for low-life, and chaos resist is a suffix so if you can afford it you can still get a lot of ES out of the slot.

So you need one other item with chaos resist. Could be a ring, an amulet, a belt, or a shield.
I also get the feeling that people vastly vastly overestimate the amount of health they need remaining (or are not willing to give up/compensate for an aura that they're running on blood)


My current setup for things that can be frozen/shocked:



The rare ring and boots aren't even particularly good, the amulet while good is not correctly geared toward the build and anything you can't leech with the ring you just swap to a doryani's (and if you don't have a headhunter you just use doryani's anyway).

Sure this build is super-glass, but not because of chaos damage (it's because i dual wield, so I'm missing the shield ES that you would usually use to compensate for the lack of shavs and i have very VERY few ES nodes).

Well, yeah, in any case I wanted to imply that I am the inventor of the low life builds without Shav's or Solaris, im just talking about a new item that counts as 2 items with chaos resistances and give us a low life buff. IMO The Broken Crown is underrated and will opens doors in LL builds non Shav's/Solaris.

You can run it with 20/40 chaos resists, but my idea is try to create builds totally safe against chaos even with very low life and maybe resurrect some uniques.

Ming's is great but, as i said, is for phys and useless for spells, so TBC is the key here.

EK and SWT are spells that do physical damage. That's why I mentioned them earlier. Ming's is really helpful for either of them.

And I think everyone else's point is that it's not that the Crown is underrated, it's just that everything else does its job better. :P

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Kaysee wrote:

My plan is to level up my BM and RM gems to 20% by around level 90 and pick up another 4% mana reduction from the tree. Then switch to LL by turning on Determination. This will give me roughly 1,200 Life to deal with Chaos damage. I also have an "Eye of Chayula" ready to go for preventing stuns meaning I loose around 5% Crit Chance by dropping Ungil's Harmony. I could also probably start shopping for some other gear upgrades (Ring, Gloves and maybe boots).

Anyway, hoping it will work. Already reached 85, so nothing left to do but expirement. :)

Don't 20% the reduced mana, its quality bonus doesn't work on auras.

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enveratise wrote:

EK and SWT are spells that do physical damage. That's why I mentioned them earlier. Ming's is really helpful for either of them.

And I think everyone else's point is that it's not that the Crown is underrated, it's just that everything else does its job better. :P

Yes, you are right, i was talking about the other spells without phys (EK, SWT and Glacial Cascade), when the Ming's is pointless and TBC is even more important.

And TBC is not really great you are right... but its like x2 items with chaos res. Maybe with another helmet you must look for another res item and you are losing another important thing. All depends of the build.

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

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Don't 20% the reduced mana, its quality bonus doesn't work on auras.

Yeah typo... I meant level 20 (they're at lvl 18 now)... not 20%.

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robotamen wrote:

Well, yeah, in any case I wanted to imply that I am the inventor of the low life builds without Shav's or Solaris, im just talking about a new item that counts as 2 items with chaos resistances and give us a low life buff. IMO The Broken Crown is underrated and will opens doors in LL builds non Shav's/Solaris.

You can run it with 20/40 chaos resists, but my idea is try to create builds totally safe against chaos even with very low life and maybe resurrect some uniques.

Ming's is great but, as i said, is for phys and useless for spells, so TBC is the key here.

My build has 76% chaos resist. Chaos is NOT the reason the build is glass, and threw out random numbers without actually checking how much chaos resist i have. Didn't say anything about the boot/helm slot situation either, making it so its very easy to get the rest of the needed chaos resist (and even overkill it if you want).

People tend to massively underestimate the power of chaos resist while simultaneously overestimating how much HP they need to survive when chaos resist is maxed.

You could do it with broken crown too. Just swap it with my vertex, boom, done. It doesn't need to be "Resurrected", it just simply is not as good as the vertex, and people who can afford a low life build can usually also afford the vertex.

If you can't afford the vertex, then use broken crown. If you can afford the vertex, use the vertex or a rare with chaos resist and huge ES.
Broken crown was never truly bad, it's just a middle of the road stepping stone item for a build where the player can almost always afford top-tier items already, making it not really have a place.



TL;DR:
1. Broken crown is not bad, it just has no place in a build that requires so much currency that players can almost always afford a straight upgrade.
2. Chaos damage is easier to handle than most people think.

I had a build last league with 280hp low life, running chaos maps etc.

And i did jungle valley boss with 760hp unreserved.

Just so you know, it's all good.

Peace,

-Boem-

I'm not really comfortable with having only 280 HP if you're running no shavs LL. Hell, before I rerolled I even got killed by the miscreation unique mob during the domi fight.

did you have some Life Regen of any sort? Really makes me wanna consider running Immortal Flesh lol

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enveratise wrote:

I'm not really comfortable with having only 280 HP if you're running no shavs LL. Hell, before I rerolled I even got killed by the miscreation unique mob during the domi fight.

did you have some Life Regen of any sort? Really makes me wanna consider running Immortal Flesh lol

Can't speak for him but I run vitality and some life nodes and regen as well. Keep a decent hp buffer unreserved depending on the map and spam flasks cuz surgeons op.

Just did a zana 75 museum, no deaths or anything, just had to press the life flask here and there: