Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Mechanics thread - Forum

Hi Malice! Thanks for this great thread :) would just like to clarify two things, " Energy Shield As long as you have greater than 0 Energy Shield, you have a 50% chance to avoid stun. Energy Shield acts as an additional hit point pool on top of life. If you have any Energy Shield remaining when you take damage, the damage is subtracted from the Energy Shield first. Damage is only applied to life once all Energy Shield is depleted. The exception to this is Chaos Damage, which ignores Energy Shield. " The formula used for determining whether or not a stun occurs is: stun_chance = 200 * damage / defender_effective_max_life Where defender_effective_max_life is the maximum life of the creature being hit. Increases to monster life from a party of more than one player do not affect defender_effective_max_life. For a player with Chaos Inoculation, their defender_effective_max_life is whatever their max life would be if they did not have Chaos Inoculation. does the above 50% chance to avoid stun apply to CI or just to non-CI builds? also, as long as a hp build has 1 ES, does that mean that there is an automatic 50% chance to avoid stun? Build of the Week 14 The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader	Posted by Invalesco#7360 on Oct 16, 2012, 5:35:14 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Invalesco wrote: does the above 50% chance to avoid stun apply to CI or just to non-CI builds? also, as long as a hp build has 1 ES, does that mean that there is an automatic 50% chance to avoid stun? Yes, it works for everyone with ES, not only CI builds. The only restriction is that your ES is not down.	Posted by Kissan#7229 on Oct 16, 2012, 6:19:06 AM Quote this Post
@Invalesco " As long as you have greater than 0 Energy Shield, you have a 50% chance to avoid stun. As far as I know there are no exceptions to the above rule. Any additional % chance to avoid stun you get from the passive tree should stack additively with that 50%.	Posted by Malice#2426 on Oct 16, 2012, 11:58:39 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
How do EB and Acrobatics interfere? Will u get the mana from es or will acro negate it?	Posted by Aca29#4963 on Oct 16, 2012, 12:42:57 PM Quote this Post
" Aca29 wrote: How do EB and Acrobatics interfere? Will u get the mana from es or will acro negate it? Acrobatics removes all energy shield. So EB will convert 0 energy shield into 0 mana.	Posted by Malice#2426 on Oct 16, 2012, 2:00:14 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Malice wrote: @Invalesco " As long as you have greater than 0 Energy Shield, you have a 50% chance to avoid stun. As far as I know there are no exceptions to the above rule. Any additional % chance to avoid stun you get from the passive tree should stack additively with that 50%. It doesn't. "Chance to avoid stun" from stats is a separate mechanic from what ES does. Unfortunately the easiest way to describe the effect of ES makes it sound like they're the same. Last edited by Mark_GGG#0000 on Oct 16, 2012, 6:40:59 PM	Posted by Mark_GGG on Oct 16, 2012, 6:40:30 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
so they interact multiplicatively? So if you had 24% chance to avoid stun from passives, and 50% from ES, it should work like this: Total stun avoidance: 1 - (1-24%)*(1-50%) = 62%. -- I don't have alpha access, that was a LONG time ago.	Posted by Zakaluka#1191 on Oct 16, 2012, 6:52:47 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Hi malice! Important discrepancy in OP. " Malice wrote: When in a party, each player in the party after the first gives the equivalent of +50% item quantity modifier on drops. New information from chris: quote " Chris wrote: Changed the bonus multiplicative item quantity bonus that occur for parties, so that it's just +50% per additional player. Pretty significant difference between those two statements. -- I don't have alpha access, that was a LONG time ago.	Posted by Zakaluka#1191 on Oct 16, 2012, 7:48:45 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
That interaction can be found in the drop rates section. It's not new information and has been that way for quite some time, todays patch fixed things to work how they were intended to be. So in fact the information in this thread was actually false before today, but is true now that the actual workings have been made to match the information that was given back when the change to multiplicative stacking was first made. " There are two modifiers that affect drop rates in the game, increased item rarity, and increased item quantity. There are three potential sources of these modifiers: - the player (skills, passives, gear etc.) - monsters (such as bosses and champions) - Party bonuses Modifiers from the player stack additively with each other, and are subject to diminishing returns. Modifiers from the party bonus and monsters stack additively with each other, and are not subject to diminishing returns. The total player bonus stacks multiplicatively with the total party & monster bonus. edit: I added a line in the party section to point people to the drop rates section. Last edited by Malice#2426 on Oct 16, 2012, 8:35:11 PM	Posted by Malice#2426 on Oct 16, 2012, 7:58:07 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
The experience requirements for each player level have been requested, so here goes: Spoiler Level Total XP XP to gain 1 0 525 2 525 1,235 3 1,760 2,021 4 3,781 3,403 5 7,184 5,002 6 12,186 7,138 7 19,324 10,053 8 29,377 13,804 9 43,181 18,512 10 61,693 24,297 11 85,990 31,516 12 117,506 39,878 13 157,384 50,352 14 207,736 62,261 15 269,997 76,465 16 346,462 92,806 17 439,268 112,027 18 551,295 133,876 19 685,171 158,538 20 843,709 187,025 21 1,030,734 218,895 22 1,249,629 255,366 23 1,504,995 295,852 24 1,800,847 341,805 25 2,142,652 392,470 26 2,535,122 449,555 27 2,984,677 512,121 28 3,496,798 583,857 29 4,080,655 662,181 30 4,742,836 747,411 31 5,490,247 844,146 32 6,334,393 949,053 33 7,283,446 1,064,952 34 8,348,398 1,192,712 35 9,541,110 1,333,241 36 10,874,351 1,487,491 37 12,361,842 1,656,447 38 14,018,289 1,841,143 39 15,859,432 2,046,202 40 17,905,634 2,265,837 41 20,171,471 2,508,528 42 22,679,999 2,776,124 43 25,456,123 3,061,734 44 28,517,857 3,379,914 45 31,897,771 3,723,676 46 35,621,447 4,099,570 47 39,721,017 4,504,444 48 44,225,461 4,951,099 49 49,176,560 5,430,907 50 54,607,467 5,957,868 51 60,565,335 6,528,910 52 67,094,245 7,153,414 53 74,247,659 7,827,968 54 82,075,627 8,555,414 55 90,631,041 9,353,933 56 99,984,974 10,212,541 57 110,197,515 11,142,646 58 121,340,161 12,157,041 59 133,497,202 13,252,160 60 146,749,362 14,441,758 61 161,191,120 15,731,508 62 176,922,628 17,127,265 63 194,049,893 18,635,053 64 212,684,946 20,271,765 65 232,956,711 22,044,909 66 255,001,620 23,950,783 67 278,952,403 26,019,833 68 304,972,236 28,261,412 69 333,233,648 30,672,515 70 363,906,163 33,287,878 71 397,194,041 36,118,904 72 433,312,945 39,163,425 73 472,476,370 42,460,810 74 514,937,180 46,024,718 75 560,961,898 49,853,964 76 610,815,862 54,008,554 77 664,824,416 58,473,753 78 723,298,169 63,314,495 79 786,612,664 68,516,464 80 855,129,128 74,132,190 81 929,261,318 80,182,477 82 1,009,443,795 86,725,730 83 1,096,169,525 93,748,717 84 1,189,918,242 101,352,108 85 1,291,270,350 109,524,907 86 1,400,795,257 118,335,069 87 1,519,130,326 127,813,148 88 1,646,943,474 138,033,822 89 1,784,977,296 149,032,391 90 1,934,009,687 160,890,604 91 2,094,900,291 173,648,795 92 2,268,549,086 187,372,170 93 2,455,921,256 202,153,736 94 2,658,074,992 218,041,909 95 2,876,116,901 235,163,399 96 3,111,280,300 253,547,862 97 3,364,828,162 273,358,532 98 3,638,186,694 294,631,836 99 3,932,818,530 317,515,914 100 4,250,334,444 0	Posted by Qarl#1370 on Oct 17, 2012, 5:05:30 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post