[2.0] Terror's "Shatter Chuck Lite" Variant •• Barrage CoC •• 280k+ DPS •• Atziri w/ 5-Link

You talk about GMP as if the only thing about it is, and ever was, shotgunning. This is false. It's about hitting a wider spread. Even in 1.3 the shotgun effect was only really relevant against bosses, as mobs had to be right next to you for it to be relevant. GMP still does exactly what it did in 1.3 for clear speed: hits lots of shit in a wide area. And AoE effects from projectiles can still overlap for extra damage.

And those videos all seem to be done in 1.3, which isn't completely relevant. They're like concept cars. They might look and sound cool, but that doesn't mean they actually work out in reality.
Last edited by TimeDilation#5779 on Jul 21, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
No need to get hostile guys! There's a lot that works with SCL now so the "right" build is much more diverse than it used to be.

GMP is still really good at clearing groups. It lacks slightly when compared to GMP-less when vsing bosses, but is still strong. Both ways are great options and I don't think either side deserves the "right" tag.

Sorry, I've been hooked on Terraria lately. I'll see if I can't work out ancillary gems soon and get a vid guide up.
Questions I suspect we'll be debating in this thread for a long time: "What's the best way to stay alive?", "What's the best spell set-up?" and "No, serious, what's the best way to stay alive?".

A lot of spell set-ups are effective at clearing packs. It's against high-life single targets where I start to notice the differences between some spell combinations than others. Going to continue experimenting to see what combinations I like.
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Duskcaller wrote:
Questions I suspect we'll be debating in this thread for a long time: "What's the best way to stay alive?", "What's the best spell set-up?" and "No, serious, what's the best way to stay alive?".

A lot of spell set-ups are effective at clearing packs. It's against high-life single targets where I start to notice the differences between some spell combinations than others. Going to continue experimenting to see what combinations I like.

That reminds me:

Seriously, guys, what's the best way to stay alive?
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justinmm1988 wrote:
I use EB with a +3 jewel, not hard to roll! With GMP you only need one and never have a problem, I use FP and AB as my spells on 95% crit on barrage, 90% accuracy, 2.7 APS...

FP w/charges: 7535
AB w/charges: 5425

I run HoL with curse on hit w/AM
HoI
Purity of Ice
Artic Armour

My Tree!



Jutinm1988,
I am considering to respec into your style of only using Oak's Heart. Can advice if you find Oak Heart is good enough? ie. instead of Unweavering Stance or Acrobat?
thanks
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TimeDilation wrote:
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Rathik2 wrote:

2 exalted to pay for zero mana issues is not that much.

And hardly "a lot mana cost reduction", only 1 Elreon item which everyone can craft if they farm a bit.
Elreon amulet also frees skill nodes that can be used to boost life or dps.
And is not well crafted. It could have a lot better affixes like accuracy or crit mult.
I got life gain on kill with my regal :).

It's a pretty good idea that had escaped me until you implicitly suggested it, but even though I found an uncrafted -8 amulet in my stash and made this

with it, I still don't like the EK route. My clear speed seems much lower by ditching GMP for EK (and using something like cascade instead of freezing pulse). Freezing pulse pierces and just does way more damage to a horde than EK+cascade can (cascade is extremely linear, and EK doesn't pierce), plus the GMP basically doubles your projectiles per skill use (and with quality ups your attack speed, and as long as you're not really close to a breakpoint that's a good thing). Freezing pulse also has a good damage effectiveness, good damage (at least when not too far away) and adds a lot more freezing and chills. I haven't really singled it out against bosses, but a three spell combo just doesn't seem good for general clearing purposes. So you're not entirely out of the water on mana cost yet, as the GMP clearing combo still puts you at a mana cost of 9. Makes +es on hit or +mana on hit much easier to sustain you, at least.

Which skill nodes are you expecting to free up, just the 2 put into EB?


You can always use another Elreon ring in addition to the amulet. That would put you down to 1 mana per cast.
And yea, with no mana issues you don't need to use EB so that is 2 skill points saved.

It will going to like something like this.

-8 to Mana Cost of Skills
+35-44 to Maximum Life
Can have multiple Crafted Mods
+121-150 to Accuracy Rating
12-16% increased Critical Strike chance

Its really not a bad ring.

You can also replace life leech with warlord's mark. Barrage will cost 5 mana. You get free endurance charges also.
You can also use reduced mana and use CODW + warlords mark. Barrage is free with a 19/20 reduced mana.
Or even go with a CODW + warlords mark link, dorianis belt and an additional spell. 5 mana cost.

My freezing pulse gem is only level 13 so I can't really know the DPS status.

Single target DPS way lower though.
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Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Jul 22, 2015, 7:09:24 AM
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Cheekything wrote:
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justinmm1988 wrote:
I use EB with a +3 jewel, not hard to roll! With GMP you only need one and never have a problem, I use FP and AB as my spells on 95% crit on barrage, 90% accuracy, 2.7 APS...

FP w/charges: 7535
AB w/charges: 5425

I run HoL with curse on hit w/AM
HoI
Purity of Ice
Artic Armour

My Tree!



Jutinm1988,
I am considering to respec into your style of only using Oak's Heart. Can advice if you find Oak Heart is good enough? ie. instead of Unweavering Stance or Acrobat?
thanks


You can compare it to unwavering, but not acrobatic's or anything else because they do totally different things!

I choose it because it's close, provides 30% chance to not be stunned, and doesn't force me to not be able to evade. I never like to take unwavering unless im also taking iron reflexes. But it's all personal preferences. Just because I like it doesn't mean you will, especially if you don't like being stunned, cause it will happen just less noticeable with this, and without not being able to evade...I have 24% chance, if I took unwavering I do not!
Last edited by justinmm1988#6504 on Jul 22, 2015, 10:04:15 PM
When can we expect a 2.0 update of this guide? Looks amazing, and wanna try it out :)
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Reanyc wrote:
When can we expect a 2.0 update of this guide? Looks amazing, and wanna try it out :)


Try this.

IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
*gasp* Poaching! Rude!


The build still works the same. Roll a scion and use the Scion Attack or Spell nodes to connect instead of the Witch ones. Grab Jewel sockets where available. Ta-da! Spells are up to you. KB is better against packs, Barrage is better single target.
Last edited by Terrornoid#4502 on Jul 23, 2015, 7:08:44 PM

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