[1.3] LVL84 FoxTactic's Arctic Fire Nova "Torment L 20000dps"

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Jiwson wrote:
Whats your main reason to skip the top part of the tree with Dark Arts and the FireDmg? Do you pick up that much dmg and castspeed down in the templar? And you didnt get the Dual Curse? Is this a new build of some sorts?

Im talking about the new 1.3 tree you added.


It's a "Righteous" build. As my previous Righteous builds it uses righteous fire to amplify spelldamage, hence using 1 weapon and rise of the phoenix, so dark arts wont work since its for dual wielding.
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FoxTactics wrote:
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Jiwson wrote:
Whats your main reason to skip the top part of the tree with Dark Arts and the FireDmg? Do you pick up that much dmg and castspeed down in the templar? And you didnt get the Dual Curse? Is this a new build of some sorts?

Im talking about the new 1.3 tree you added.


It's a "Righteous" build. As my previous Righteous builds it uses righteous fire to amplify spelldamage, hence using 1 weapon and rise of the phoenix, so dark arts wont work since its for dual wielding.


Ahaa, then I understand whats it all about. So the original 1.3 link is the one for the ninja style (dual wield) build.
Will you be updating the thread before the weekend with more info about leveling and so on?
Looks fun. I will try this in the new leagues! Thanks! :D
Fox, sorry for hijacking. The muse of RF nova just came to me. RF nova build shares the concept of RF Arc and Crit Pledge of Hand Arc. In other words, I am just applying what Fox taught us.

The passive tree you posted in RF Arc (I slight modified a bit)
110pts http://poeurl.com/y78ONxW

6L Coil(BBBRRR or BBBRRG) Ice Nova, Fc, Echo, Fire Pen, Life Leech/Added Fire/Added Cold (Choose 2 out of 3)
4L Alpha's (BBRR) Purity of lightning, Clarity, lv21 Purity of Fire, Reduced Mana
4L Rare Gloves (BRBB)Lightning Warp, Reduced Duration, Curse on hit, Flammability
4L Rare Boots (BBRB)Flamesurge, echo/faster cast, fire pen, conc. effect,
3L Pheonix (RRR)Cwdt, enduring cry, immortal call
3L Doryani's (GGB)Arctic armor, righeous fire, enhance

Maths stuff
Auras:
Assume 1500 mana, 12% red. mana reserved from tree + alpha's, running POF, POL, Clarity
mana unreserved 514
Link to the test
https://poe.mikelat.com/#auras=1&name%5B1%5D=Aura+Group+1&cla%5B1%5D=20&pof%5B1%5D=1&pol%5B1%5D=1&bmg%5B1%5D=&rmg%5B1%5D=20&mul%5B1%5D=100&rms=12&alp=1&life=1000&mana=1500

RF:
Regen Tree 9.4% hp/s
RF Burn (42% aura effect, 26% buff effect, lv23 purity of fire, rise of the pheonix, +1% fire resist)
90%*(1+26%)* [1-75%-8%-5%*(1+42%+26%)-1%]
=90%* 1.26 * (1-75%-8%-8%-1%)
= 9.072 hp/s

Some Problems
Dex required will be higher due to alpha's
Rolling off colors on coil and alpha's will have some difficulty. (Particularly Alpha's, but good thing is vorici can help)
Last edited by MinaGing#4046 on Dec 9, 2014, 2:51:46 PM
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MinaGing wrote:
Fox, sorry for hijacking. The muse of RF nova just came to me. RF nova build shares the concept of RF Arc and Crit Pledge of Hand Arc. In other words, I am just applying what Fox taught us.

The passive tree you posted in RF Arc (I slight modified a bit)
110pts http://poeurl.com/y78ONxW

6L Coil(BBBRRR or BBBRRG) Ice Nova, Fc, Echo, Fire Pen, Life Leech/Added Fire/Added Cold (Choose 2 out of 3)
4L Alpha's (BBRR) Purity of lightning, Clarity, lv21 Purity of Fire, Reduced Mana
4L Rare Gloves (BRBB)Lightning Warp, Reduced Duration, Curse on hit, Flammability
4L Rare Boots (BBRB)Flamesurge, echo/faster cast, fire pen, conc. effect,
3L Pheonix (RRR)Cwdt, enduring cry, immortal call
3L Doryani's (GGB)Arctic armor, righeous fire, enhance

Maths stuff
Auras:
Assume 1500 mana, 12% red. mana reserved from tree + alpha's, running POF, POL, Clarity
mana unreserved 514
Link to the test
https://poe.mikelat.com/#auras=1&name%5B1%5D=Aura+Group+1&cla%5B1%5D=20&pof%5B1%5D=1&pol%5B1%5D=1&bmg%5B1%5D=&rmg%5B1%5D=20&mul%5B1%5D=100&rms=12&alp=1&life=1000&mana=1500

RF:
Regen Tree 9.4% hp/s
RF Burn (42% aura effect, 26% buff effect, lv23 purity of fire, rise of the pheonix, +1% fire resist)
90%*(1+26%)* [1-75%-8%-5%*(1+42%+26%)-1%]
=90%* 1.26 * (1-75%-8%-8%-1%)
= 9.072 hp/s

Some Problems
Dex required will be higher due to alpha's
Rolling off colors on coil and alpha's will have some difficulty. (Particularly Alpha's, but good thing is vorici can help)


Yeh i think im gonna stick with the similar RF tree i posted in the Rf arc thread. Similar to this one, where you might be able to drop vitality by spending 7-8 nodes into marauder.

Secondly i think were gonna have to stick with Cloak of defiance here, The 4 blue coil is just out of hand... BUT, i have been playing in standard where i swapped Echo gem for Addedcold OR cold to fire, inside the armour and its not as bad as i thought, still fast and if you can clear fast enough. So thats what the discussion basicly comes down to, 4b - cloak, 3b - coil.

We are just toying with the idea of alpha's nothing set in stone. I usually make builds while im playing. So the end and the progress of this build will see the end light during the 1.3 patch. But for those who want to walk in my footsteps, this build thread is for them :D.
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FoxTactics wrote:
Gonna update build in the next few days.

Changed my flame surge for a Arctic breath, echo, fc, firepent + conc from helmet. Might changed Fc for added dmg.



Hi Fox,

Just wondering why the change from flame surge to arctic breath? I thought flame surge synergized well with this build due to the 50% more damage modifier on buring enemies.

Cheers!
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RyogaHibiki wrote:
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FoxTactics wrote:
Gonna update build in the next few days.

Changed my flame surge for a Arctic breath, echo, fc, firepent + conc from helmet. Might changed Fc for added dmg.



Hi Fox,

Just wondering why the change from flame surge to arctic breath? I thought flame surge synergized well with this build due to the 50% more damage modifier on buring enemies.

Cheers!


For non-RF Arctic Breath may do more damage than flame surge with the double-dipping of cold damage nodes, but I haven't done any math on it. Without RF nothing will be burning reliably. It would also offer kiting opportunities with ground ice + arctic armour or a ranged option against certain bosses.

For RF Flame Surge is the obvious choice.
nice to see you back) I know only a week play but I'm gonna try and make some elemental weakness gloves. then you can run full 6L in chest and still double curse. Put the flame surge in Rime for 5L basically.
Git R Dun!
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FoxTactics wrote:

Secondly i think were gonna have to stick with Cloak of defiance here, The 4 blue coil is just out of hand... BUT, i have been playing in standard where i swapped Echo gem for Addedcold OR cold to fire, inside the armour and its not as bad as i thought, still fast and if you can clear fast enough. So thats what the discussion basicly comes down to, 4b - cloak, 3b - coil.


Thoughts on Cloak of Flame? It may be a good starter chest in a fresh league before you can afford a Cloak of Defiance, 20% Phys Damage taken as Fire which is complimented by Purity of Fire, Arctic Armour and the +8% Max Res if using RotP. Provides substantial fire res and getting BBBR would be a lot easier too.

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IslandLife wrote:

For non-RF Arctic Breath may do more damage than flame surge with the double-dipping of cold damage nodes, but I haven't done any math on it. Without RF nothing will be burning reliably. It would also offer kiting opportunities with ground ice + arctic armour or a ranged option against certain bosses.

For RF Flame Surge is the obvious choice.


Arctic Breath may also win out if you consider it can shotgun with LMP/GMP (if you can handle potential performance issues of course). What would be the optimal 4L for AB if you include FC, Echo, FPen, LMP/GMP and Conc?
Last edited by Hojirozame#7390 on Dec 11, 2014, 8:12:10 AM
I am still interested in this guide.
Could you add a quick video, checked your stream + highlights, couldnt find it.

Is there any updat available after the official patch nodes?

Another Question : You dont have +1 curse in your main skill tree, but you are playing with 2 curses in your 5 L.

Thank you in adavance:)

/e: possbile to do it as a ci build aswell ( cause of current nerfs) ?


here are my thoughts - with using ES shild - less cast speed , but focused on burning and damage.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA6QLfikuuGyXZW20ZEVAdTzW5pyuLejbFHwIEB0yzLR_DbVxrhEji9wFvVmMV14auLL_BxX_GoqPB85UgSVHw1QcelS6TJxzc6rq0DA18N2Y0CiY8FvMvnexVKo1JGzbY8WysmPfXIoGeoVZKjjwXVEwtEQ_VpuQiGmydrqcI2CSMdp487DjtPJo7gpu3McAaRtdXKXGFXfIOSBGW5Y6dY4w2pLEtix_HK3gsnBBYh2WX9FJTPV88Be98sULauS6Ul4U09yGwgwlGcSymkNbfsHF5FxwSaQ==
Last edited by esna#2406 on Dec 12, 2014, 4:21:33 AM

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