1.3 Life Based "Shatter Chuck Lite" Barrage - CoC build (updated the tree)

without haste i have 2.4 aps and with haste on i get to 2.7. I don't know is all of that is usefull but my dps is really better with it.
According to the APS discussion, I'm reposting post (not mine) from other thread:
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sftruze wrote:
(im japanese. im bad at egnlish. my english is sometimes wrong. sorry.)

I did some experiments to measure the interval of barrage projectiles.

-----Experiment-----

In PvP mode, I attacked my another char with Barrage - GMP - CoC - Summon raging spirit.
and i checked the Max number of spirits summoned.

max 8 spirits from 1 barrage = CoC activated 8 times = the interval is more than 0.05s
max 4 spirits from 1 barrage = CoC activated 4 times = the interval is less than 0.05s

I did some experiment with changing the attack speed modifier.


-----Result-----

APS(tooltip) / AS modifier(tooltip) / max srs from 1 barrage

1.6 / +10% / 8 <--with slow attack speed, the 0.05s cooldown is not problem.
1.7 / +15% / 8
...
2.1 / +40% / 8
2.2 / +45% / 8
2.3 / +50% / 8 <--Max speed with 0.05s or more interval
2.3 / +55% / 4 <--the interval is less than 0.05s.
2.4 / +60% / 4
...
3.8 / +150% / 4 <-- this is my Max APS.

*the weapon APS is 1.5 (imbued wand, no AS affix).


-----Summary-----

-the APS which have just 0.05s projectile interval is 2.25~2.325 APS.
-the APS which have just 0.025s projectile interval is maybe 4.5~4.65 APS.

so
~2.25 APS : no less damage
2.325~4.5APS : 35% less damage
4.5APS~ : 50% less damage

-with my last post's math, the DPS of 2.3APS and 3.5APS are same.
2.3APS (+50%) = 4.8spells * 2.3APS =~ 11spells/sec
3.5APS (+130%) = 3.138spells * 3.5 =~ 11spells/sec
my last post
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sftruze wrote:
(im Japanese. im bad at English . my English is sometimes wrong. sorry)

i did the math about the CoC cooldown change.

math
CoC chance (Lv21 coc gem) = 70%
Chance to hit(accuracy) =~ 86%
0.7*0.86 =~ 0.6

>>each barrage projectile has 60% chance to cast spell.

Barrage fires 8 projectiles in about 50% of attack motion time.
and the real attack speed is slower than the tooltip aps. its about 80% of tooltip aps.

therefore

~1.5 tooltip aps : 0.05 sec or more projectile interval.
1.6~3.1 tooltip aps : 0.05~0.25 sec projectile interval.
3.2~ tooltip aps : 0.25 sec or less projectile interval.

calculation in google sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qL_APFVXF5eYoH528V9Rcz_mTHif1VRaY_Rly4Okw5g/pubhtml
i listed the all case of 8 projectiles Cast or NoCast.(all cast to all NoCast. 256 cases.)
and calculated the chance to happen that and number of spells casted in that for each.
then calculated the "average spells cast per barrage".


spells cast per 1 barrage (8 projectile) is
~0.05 sec : 4.8 (no change)
0.05~0.025 sec : 3.138... (=~35% of casts are stopped by the 0.05s cooldown.)
0.025~ sec : 2.433... (=~50% of casts are sotpped by the 0.05s cooldown.)

the CoC gem nerf is equal about
35%less damage for 1.5~3.1 aps.
50%less damage for 3.1~ aps.

To do in 1.3.0

test and find the best tooltip aps. (fastest one that have 0.025s or more interval) (or 0.05s )


Edit:

I did atziri after the patch. i have no mirror gear, but it was easy.
im thinking about,

-2.3 APS with slow attack speed & high crit wand.
-2.3 APS without Blood rage(Blood rage makes frenzy charges, its not good to get just 2.3APS.)
-no change. use current gear. (3.5 or more APS is better than 2.3 APS.)


please tell me your opinion.

thank you for reading.
Is this build ueber atziri viable ?
Im at 2.2aps in torment league, I do not have a 6L volls.. but I do have a tabula.. I still run barrage - gmp - coc - pcoc - leech - arctic breath.

with "to calculate shotgun dps: accuracy * accuracy * crit chance * coc proc chance * barrage projectiles * gmp projectiles * (spell average damage + spell average damage ...) / attack time
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0.90*0.90*0.95*0.64*8*5*2779/0.45 = 121k dps (without RF)
0.90*0.90*0.95*0.64*8*5*4407/0.45 = 193k dps (with RF)

And that is good enought for 1 spell only combo.. doin all I can to get a 6L volls.. this is my items in torment league;




my only real problem is my HP.. I only got 3523atm.. but I cant really take away any points without hurting my dps too much. (lvl 85)

my skill tree;

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA34qPpoIQ37AsnFWuRKvQ9UGWBUKus2r6DlxFfkyzEQ_bXlAwOlismFXGg9uVIC0fakPAVLzqaxcI9KKjwfPbC4Ievu7JRMfKmmEUsD9zbOcJoH_GDkgRll3ycFKJ03DV8-oqC7VIAx4fQQYjFr9h4iaVVUuMNmyMnao2PW1sYqy5fIwL7LBjQxqP9tr7CRmKm7VTNQ-rfVusR1FMykrDOncHhxOcpG-egwkqTSo4qW618m6qSsg_J9i9NZIIsT_86GZ4DZUuBx5JUfDV
Last edited by lillbysen#3580 on Dec 23, 2014, 7:12:22 AM
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Last edited by lillbysen#3580 on Dec 23, 2014, 8:04:32 AM
Sorry I haven't been around to update the guide. I posted my updated tree and I did a little messing around and the build seemed perfectly fine still in maps and otherwise.

Whenever I get time I'll make a post about attack speed and w/e and add it to the guide.

Thanks for all the kind words and support. :)
ign: Killmour
i feel pretty weak even though i have (i think ) pretty nice items, anything i could change in your opinion ?
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ShougoMakishima wrote:
i feel pretty weak even though i have (i think ) pretty nice items, anything i could change in your opinion ?


Accuracy is very important and you have none in your items. I would also use diamond rings for more crit chance and a good leather belt with resists.
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k0tz wrote:
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ShougoMakishima wrote:
i feel pretty weak even though i have (i think ) pretty nice items, anything i could change in your opinion ?


Accuracy is very important and you have none in your items. I would also use diamond rings for more crit chance and a good leather belt with resists.


changed my belt and rings, wanted to give a try to normal atziri but tri bosses complately destroyed me ;/
I really like this build, thanks so much for sharing it. I also like how many people have made their own adaptions. I'm firmly in that camp as I had a level85 Shadow with a full respec after 1.3 and decided to use him instead of the witch.

My passive tree at level90 is as follows..
Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2Av5VS9-EYeImlRa_D6ttbFM1Nj21SJu1narssPPqwzpirGyMjAsqC8pKuXxwUm-eUUyJ05yk8bODCaxHcNWHE0tXfVtd8ncHwOMqTQ5IPydjQxGWSsh_xm6qoqO18sHzqW41kpUgeA1sRio4_o_YvS0f6GZybP4KTLM__DIJtz5QMK6zBAcIscau215BloPbPC0FQtD1VcZM_yycOlivbGjy8B8876IAGF3hc63xmjvAZoKb7DgnL5BVGjjAGnGF8xGxQjmKMJcpT4V9

My current gear is as follows (getting better as I level gems etc)..
Spoiler

As you can see from my tree and gear I have deviated quite a bit from the original build. I am concentrating on cold damage with Ice Spear and Arctic Breath being cast on critical strike. Right now I have a 23% chance to freeze enemies (if they are cursed with Frostbite) and I am now really liking freezelocking those pesky exiles like the flameblast guy, and exploding minion bimbo.

The auras I use are Haste, Herald of Ice, and Herald of Thunder.

I am using Windscream boots so my Herald of Thunder is linked to Curse on Hit, Frostbite, and Enfeeble. This seems to work pretty well and I am thinking of replacing Enfeeble with Poachers Mark at some stage for Frenzy charges and life/mana on hit.

I am using 2 Elreon -8 mana items (1 ring and my amulet) so the total cost of my main attack is 2 mana. This has allowed me to drop all mana regen nodes and EB. My unreserved mana is 45 so I never run out of mana.

I took Alira bandit in Merciless so I have a total of 7 power charges. I would really love to try a Void Battery and see how that works for me DpS wise.

I've got a Discharge gem for manual cast but don;t use it often. I also have the Reckoning counterAttack gem but that doesn't trigger much due to my low block chance (25% (12% spell block))

If I level more I think I will most likely head toward the wand wheel at the top of the tree.

As always, if anybody sees any improvements on my particular build, please share them, I'd love to see.

NOTE: I have no idea what kind of damage I am doing because I totally failed 5th form maths but everything is dying pretty good, even in 6 man parties (though some moan when I pull out my wonderCoC heheh).

I've never been able to venture into the Apex of Sacrifice myself and had a guy run a few sets for me a long time ago. Now I feel that I have the character that will finally allow me to conquer Atziri, thanks to Killmour. Many thanks again for an AWESOME (and really flexible build). Also thanks to Tom for the original Shatter chuck!

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