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right now im capped rez 87 fire res got all the regen nodes in raiz's tree 5k life doryanis riseo of the pheonix a 18k armour 655 regen and i still get stomped in atziri and by some packs what the hell is going on?
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Posted bycheechong123#2094on Aug 8, 2015, 2:55:30 AM
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Grimstarz wrote:
i'm level 75 atm, got around 570 life regen/sec, 4.5k HP, and still cant sustain RF + Incinerate without losing hp. I was thinking in changing my build, to use mp for incinerate. But how much MP + MP regen do i need to have to sustain incinerate?
And how much life regen do u need to run RF + Incinerate with blood magic, to still have a decent regen while attacking?
Best way to sustain it is a lvl 21 purity of fire with a +2 helm (or empower)...I don't even have all the regen/life nodes yet and I'm gaining health. I use a Alpha Cowl for multiple reasons but I run grace - purity of fire (21) - arctic armour with a lvl 2 enlighten. At level 23 purity of fire gives 1% more max resis which is what's truly needed here.
After that you laugh...I'm almost to the point where I don't even notice my life go down running incinerate.
Also what do you guys think about area of damage jewels? I was looking it over and for about 1-2ex you can buy spell dmg / fire dmg / area of damage. I have 4 jewel slots with fire/spell dmg atm that I could replace with the mentioned jewels. I could get at least 40% increased radius with RF, question is would it be worth it?
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FYI running RF - Conc Effect - Inc Area of Effect - Burning Dmg.
Last edited by Therian#3949 on Aug 8, 2015, 5:25:40 AM
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Posted byTherian#3949on Aug 8, 2015, 5:23:05 AM
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Therian wrote:
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Grimstarz wrote:
i'm level 75 atm, got around 570 life regen/sec, 4.5k HP, and still cant sustain RF + Incinerate without losing hp. I was thinking in changing my build, to use mp for incinerate. But how much MP + MP regen do i need to have to sustain incinerate?
And how much life regen do u need to run RF + Incinerate with blood magic, to still have a decent regen while attacking?
Best way to sustain it is a lvl 21 purity of fire with a +2 helm (or empower)...I don't even have all the regen/life nodes yet and I'm gaining health. I use a Alpha Cowl for multiple reasons but I run grace - purity of fire (21) - arctic armour with a lvl 2 enlighten. At level 23 purity of fire gives 1% more max resis which is what's truly needed here.
After that you laugh...I'm almost to the point where I don't even notice my life go down running incinerate.
Also what do you guys think about area of damage jewels? I was looking it over and for about 1-2ex you can buy spell dmg / fire dmg / area of damage. I have 4 jewel slots with fire/spell dmg atm that I could replace with the mentioned jewels. I could get at least 40% increased radius with RF, question is would it be worth it?
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FYI running RF - Conc Effect - Inc Area of Effect - Burning Dmg.
For a long period of time i though that RF was a good source of damage. But lets do some math:
- Incinerate tooltip DPS = 15k. Which at stage 3 is 60k.
- RF burns for 50% of your life. It depends on a lot of things, but lets say that you get also 300% bonus, Which is 200% of your life. So, it might be around 16k.
Therefore, RF isnt your damage source.
Of course that this is only a brute idea. I don't have enough knowledgement on this area to rely on my calculation, but i know that incinerate kill stuff so fast that they cannot even reach my RF radius. So... I'd rather get spell/fire damage, +#% maximum life and stats/block/res on the jewels. Even a #% chance to knockback would be good.
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Posted byanakkk#7492on Aug 8, 2015, 6:33:38 AM
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I'm level 84, I have 5.8k life, and max res including 87 fire res. My current armor is roughly 11k but w/ grace it hits almost 19k. My life regen is at 755 currently. I am using a Doryani's Catalyst and Rise of the Phoenix. I tried atziri a couple levels back to no success (died twice to vaal constructs, once to trash, and the rest to trio). Are there any benchmarks I should be looking for? I feel as though while running RF my life regen is very poor. Any suggestions to help me start farming atziri?
*Also my current tool tip for GMP Incinerate is 10k
Last edited by Kronntron#1520 on Aug 8, 2015, 11:11:27 AM
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Posted byKronntron#1520on Aug 8, 2015, 10:50:37 AM
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anakkk wrote:
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Therian wrote:
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Grimstarz wrote:
i'm level 75 atm, got around 570 life regen/sec, 4.5k HP, and still cant sustain RF + Incinerate without losing hp. I was thinking in changing my build, to use mp for incinerate. But how much MP + MP regen do i need to have to sustain incinerate?
And how much life regen do u need to run RF + Incinerate with blood magic, to still have a decent regen while attacking?
Best way to sustain it is a lvl 21 purity of fire with a +2 helm (or empower)...I don't even have all the regen/life nodes yet and I'm gaining health. I use a Alpha Cowl for multiple reasons but I run grace - purity of fire (21) - arctic armour with a lvl 2 enlighten. At level 23 purity of fire gives 1% more max resis which is what's truly needed here.
After that you laugh...I'm almost to the point where I don't even notice my life go down running incinerate.
Also what do you guys think about area of damage jewels? I was looking it over and for about 1-2ex you can buy spell dmg / fire dmg / area of damage. I have 4 jewel slots with fire/spell dmg atm that I could replace with the mentioned jewels. I could get at least 40% increased radius with RF, question is would it be worth it?
*edit*
FYI running RF - Conc Effect - Inc Area of Effect - Burning Dmg.
For a long period of time i though that RF was a good source of damage. But lets do some math:
- Incinerate tooltip DPS = 15k. Which at stage 3 is 60k.
- RF burns for 50% of your life. It depends on a lot of things, but lets say that you get also 300% bonus, Which is 200% of your life. So, it might be around 16k.
Therefore, RF isnt your damage source.
Of course that this is only a brute idea. I don't have enough knowledgement on this area to rely on my calculation, but i know that incinerate kill stuff so fast that they cannot even reach my RF radius. So... I'd rather get spell/fire damage, +#% maximum life and stats/block/res on the jewels. Even a #% chance to knockback would be good.
Well that's what I'm trying to solve....RF gives quite a bit of damage so that's my reason for wanting to increase the radius. It's a dead end though, looked up the skill forum and it says you only get a 1-2% increase per jewel...it's not worth it.
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Posted byTherian#3949on Aug 9, 2015, 2:30:34 AM
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got two questions about this build:
1. what level should the cwdt setup be?
2. how do i overcome high int/dex requirements from incinerate, grace etc...?
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Posted byOptimyst#2718on Aug 9, 2015, 5:12:43 AM
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Raiz did a horrible job updateing this for killing atziri 2.0 if you ask me. switched to a iron will incen build 20 times better he updated a few lines then tossed it to the side told me i wasnt killing atzir counil cause i wasnt using flasks right this build is utter trash in forms of damage now iron will setup with brawn jewels with life and regen running vitality arctic armor and purity fire kill this setup ten fold using meginords vise and alberons boots and doon cuebaryi septre switched my build to this and actually kiled atziri with ease Raiz either needs to take another look or do something for his version definitely
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Posted bycheechong123#2094on Aug 9, 2015, 6:33:37 PM
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cheechong123 wrote:
Raiz did a horrible job updateing this for killing atziri 2.0 if you ask me. switched to a iron will incen build 20 times better he updated a few lines then tossed it to the side told me i wasnt killing atzir counil cause i wasnt using flasks right this build is utter trash in forms of damage now iron will setup with brawn jewels with life and regen running vitality arctic armor and purity fire kill this setup ten fold using meginords vise and alberons boots and doon cuebaryi septre switched my build to this and actually kiled atziri with ease Raiz either needs to take another look or do something for his version definitely
Please learn to use punctuation.
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Posted bycaptainxx#3129on Aug 9, 2015, 9:40:00 PM
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I'm also running iron will setup in tempest, currently lvl 87. Shit gear and tooltip dps with rf incinerate lmp 6link 15k with lvl18 incinerate.. I honestly think this build needs some changes. I'm running elreon rings and reduced mana life nodes. My Incinerate manacost is 2. So there is no need for bloodmagic. Also it's just bad to go iron reflexes since determination is a multiplier wich affects your granite aswell. With rumis i got max 75 block. 5.6k life 7k armor running PoF, PoL and artic armor.
Don't go blood magic it is just bad. Last nodes what i'll pick will get my tooltip over 25k easy. And also when i get quality 20% support gems.
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Posted byKarhunkynsi#6977on Aug 10, 2015, 1:56:10 AM
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cheechong123 wrote:
Raiz did a horrible job updateing this for killing atziri 2.0 if you ask me. switched to a iron will incen build 20 times better he updated a few lines then tossed it to the side told me i wasnt killing atzir counil cause i wasnt using flasks right this build is utter trash in forms of damage now iron will setup with brawn jewels with life and regen running vitality arctic armor and purity fire kill this setup ten fold using meginords vise and alberons boots and doon cuebaryi septre switched my build to this and actually kiled atziri with ease Raiz either needs to take another look or do something for his version definitely
Hi is it possible you can link your uild in here + the armour setup and its skills?
I might change to your build since im having problems aswell.
Cheers
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Posted bygoldenflash#2984on Aug 10, 2015, 8:23:18 AM
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