[1.3] Compulsive incinerator [Guide]
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So, litte update. Sadly I made a blatant mistake with Cybil's :(
"+8 Life gained for each enemy hit by your spells" Obviously the "Life Leech applies to ES" from Ghost Reaver doesn't apply here :( So while this claw is probably the best weapon for life-based incinerators, it is useless here. For lack of something better, I just dumped 4 chaos into making my own noob-style weapon for further leveling: Currently the 1% leech is barely noticeable, but then I only have around 600 ES before Discipline. LVL 38 gear:
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" Well… that’s exactly what bothers me…
A bit more on ACD
Scaling: it’ll only scale with spell damage, might be good as long as you sit with a wand, but later on, how pieces of gear (and unique items !) scales elemental damages ? Before any damage scaling, it only represents 32% for the flat damages (Incinerate 85, 18.5 HoI, 60.5 ACD), after scaling, how much does it represents? Penetration: this is the only point that makes up for it, well, until you come across some chaos resistant mob or boss (and there are so many…). Leech: no. That’s a clearly a problem (yes, it’s not reflected either, but reflect is no trouble). At the same cost, Fire Penetration will be a lot better, 140% more on that fire resistant mob. What’s left are the ES targets, if you plan to kill it through its ES with only 20-25% of your output DPS, something might be wrong. About ACD versus ALD, shock is now 50% more damage and Lightning is fully scaled, it probably end up with as much damage as ACD. The thing is I’m not sure yet that you can shock well, without shock, ALD is totally useless. I’m not considering curses here because of Curse Immune, any situation where you can curse make it worse for ACD. I forgot the ACD cost was nerfed in 1.2, I’ll make sure to edit this before I push it into the guide. This won’t happen before I test all the gems I mentioned, including the one I don’t think are good. I’ll also mention Three Dragon as a levelling unique, yet remember you still have to get shock chances or crit (via Assassin’s Mark) to be able to shock. " So am I, this block variation might pull some very interesting result for Hardcore leagues. On the shield topic, have you considered Daresso’s Courage, it’s cheap and insane with low life. Compared to Saffell’s Frame, you only lose the maximum resistances (the rest can be recovered from other pieces you would need with a Saffell setup). " Damn, when you said you had a corrupted Cybil's, I assumed it was a fire leech corrupted one (which would be both incredibly awesome and expensive I guess…). Still, you can use it as a mana cost compensation as I described in my last post, using one less Elreon’s piece (or higher cost setup). Then you would have to get the fire leech from something like this: |
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I am beginning to like this build more and more
Lots of nice thoughts and well presented there, mate. Do you think there is any way to increase ES in this build without expensive stuff like vertex (sick helm for this build) or shavs? Looking forward to your thoughts on how you would modify gear and tree. Perhaps then I can run it in beyond just for fun. |
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Daresso's Courage is indeed very nice for this. As it happens, we have several of those rotting in our guild stash :D So will give it a go.
The only real problem with both Saffel's and Derasso's is their lack of ES. My block tree revolves around getting the most ES possible out of the equipped shield, to make up for wearing an armor-based chest piece. So I'm not sure I can get enough ES to be comfortable without a pure 400+ ES shield. On added chaos damage, we'll have to agree to disagree for now. The one thing that may convince me to swap it for fire pen might be leech. Since I only get 1% of fire dmg leech, it would be good to optimize my damage so it's mostly fire (herald of ice adds cold, but other than that...) Your thoughts on echo - faster casting vs. echo - fire pen? |
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" Thank you for both the compliment your constructive interventions so far, this does motivates me to further improve the guide. " There are, even not starting as a witch, you can still get a tree with a higher increased ES. I’m here considering a shadow start in both RF and non RF situations:
With RF
This tree replace Sovereignty with 91% ES for a total of 157% increased ES. In this solution, however, you won’t run as many auras because of one less wheel. It’ll still allow you to run most of them for a total of 365% mana reserved at least (maybe more, 365% is a sure value from my actual setup).
Without RF
Well here you just get plenty of points to spend around to get a tree like this resolving 175% increased ES and 200% ES from the high pure ES shield you can wear as you don’t have to carry any unique one, I must admit those helped levelling : ------- " You can make up for it with some increased ES nodes, Discipline will give you a ton of ES (currently 40% of mine : 1100 ES with my low 70% increase). " Agreed. I’m skeptical about it and look forward to test it and see if the the hype around it feel justified. " First, and as always, there is the cost difference. Other than that, as you mentioned leech trouble earlier, Fire Penetration can let you switch to Life Leech in difficult situations (also, half off topic, consider carrying Warlord’s Mark, even level 1 (23 mana), it helps and save a slot). Considering later game, Fire Penetration might resolve in a higher efficiency simply because Faster Casting will be tuned down by every piece of cast speed you get from tree and gear. Once you can stack fast enough (I think this is 1 second, purely arbitrary I admit), you might switch it out, and then bring it back again when you reach one more link later. ------- The most important reminder I got to give for level 40 and further is to keep some staunching flask close and beware of these damn Corrupting Blood, seriously, you can wreck yourself faster than any mob could hitting these. I am considering using a Flameblast to deal with this at the moment, I carried it while levelling but didn’t use it yet, still, remember the trick, in case of. |
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Okay so... I DID IT!!! :)
Level 60 on Merciless and feeling godlike. Damage is great, can facetank anything, parties love me and everyone is wondering how the f... I'm doing it with a cheapskate unique chest. I LOVE THIS BUILD!!! Reached BM at around 55, went straight there except for some shield and ES nodes on the way. Also took IR. Current stats are: 3500 ES 5k armor (no determination yet) 77/69/77/27 res 1800 tooltip DPS with added chaos I admit to pimping out my gear a fair bit, especially the shield provides me with like 1k ES due to block passives. But in all I spent maybe 15-20c tops and it feels like I spent 20 ex :D Range is ridiculous with q15 incienrate and my new 40% projectile speed wand :> Almost offscreen. Had to switch to 3rd Elreon ring when incinerate hit lvl15. Current gear:
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Thank you so much Andelcruce for all the inspiration and help! |
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Ok so this build just went past "cheapskate" :P
My tree gives me 61% chance to block attacks with the Rathpith. With its mediocre spell block roll and my Rainbowstrides (24%), this would mean that if I wore a Stone of Lazhwar with its 50% spellblock, I'd end up with exactly 75,03 spellblock aka max :D Ideally, a fire leech corrupted lazhwar.... Of course, this would require dropping down Incinerate to a mere 3link. Again tho, its lv20 mana cost with LMP and echo will be exactly 16 (=2 rings) so something is telling me this is meant to be :D It is "just" aura support after all.. or rather, heavy melee combat support now hrhrhr :D |
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Congratulation on level 73 already!
How is this going with the current Beyond mechanic? From what I’ve seen there, it shouldn’t bring any particular problem, but as I didn’t went so far in there yet, maybe I missed something. " Remember you can also fall back on Cybil’s Paw which is worth up to two Elreon’s pieces with Spell Echo. This is an easy solution to allow unique jewelry, and it would fit with your block setup. About Empower viability, I tested level 21 Incinerate and it’s still 9 base cost (same as lv 20). As I am slowly approaching level 20 gems, my current setup will break and make me switch to a third Elreon’s piece. I’ll take this as an opportunity to tweak my gear a little and proceed to several tests. |
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" It's going nicely, thanks. Corrupting Blood is getting impossible to do, like you mentioned - but as I only play in parties, I'll just let the others deal with that. If alone I just skip em for now. One more problem of playing alone is that with 8 reserved life, I cant curse even lvl1 or I'd kill myself :D Another issue is getting frozen a lot - due to not having an Alpha's or Dream fragments, both of which I feel don't really work with my build. My only option would be wearing an Auxium Belt, which I will probably have to do eventually (sigh). Other than that, build rocks :) About the Cybil's - I don't think I dare using it. What if I desync and fire at nothing for a few seconds even? I'd self-kill... plus I could run 1 less aura due to the need of having atleast some unreserved HP. " This is great to hear since I found this: The +1 to gems really is the killer here hehe. Makes my 3L dps feel like a 4L almost. |
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Ok, another update. Got fed up with being frozen. Also realized my armor (7300) was too low in 71+ maps. The only real solution to both problems was an Alpha's Howl, so I got one :P
So this means I am going full support now. Specced out of all the damage nodes and went for Sovereignty wheel instead, put Grace - Determination - Haste in the Alphas which has allowed me to add another Aura, running a total of 10 now. Armor went up to almost 12k which feels a lot better. Downside is I lost 700 ES and 30 chaos res, poison clouds are now very annoying at -14 chaos. But the increased armor, stronger/more auras and cannot be frozen make more than up for it. I'm going to get as many ES nodes as possible now, definitely going for the Body & Soul wheel. If only I'd drop a Shavs already :P Current planned tree: https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAGyVLrukC34ptGdlbpys1uRFQLR8dT1yKwfOVIHvXj_rsGMHFf8aioy9v2RNwu19q2-dHBtDQrEdRTMpKb56DCUZxtAyTJxzcKaVOKipNfVusr-eRw4ZeExvIQzG2Qe7ZBjl5wBpVYSGE79wd378UcQ48OlI26GSjJbyfy4O2JwtCozbFHwKESOL3AW-LevrSHRSPRpuh99dV1mTnFy-ApFxrw21-4lFgT32AVqmVDXzquhUgLOndDVuvSVHw1eIsCTPRNp3EWPW3MUNjms9xTWaehtEksOGIHar-SQQHTLNKyD8n That's 197% increased ES from tree, 185% increased ES from Rathpith, almost 100% increased Armor rating (via EV and AR), and 61/75 block at lvl 94 (yeah... long way off haha) Only thing I'm missing is regen but it should be okay. :) |
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