[1.2.3] Hack's Dual Cybil's Blazer (100K+ Incinerate DPS + Pen, 1K life gain/sec)

Hi what do you think about using Infernal Mantle chest ?
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MaSterX_BG wrote:
Hi! I'm using your build in beyond league and so far it is pretty good. Beyond bosses are melting in few seconds and it feels pretty save. Still low level but leech from claws is insane.

I have one question. I'm using three dragons but I don't shock at all. At the moment I only have 5% chance to ignite from shadow start and no static blows.

Running herald of ice so I ignite, but I never seem to shock.
What should I do?

Also I'm running 4L with added chaos/echo/gmp and the dps is pretty good. Will revisit this setup when I get 5L.



You still need chance to shock from the tree to shock with Incinerate since it doesn't crit.


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Empuu wrote:
Hi what do you think about using Infernal Mantle chest ?


You can't risk going MoM with that chest so it is basically for YOLO DPS.
I'm doing the scion variant you posted in this thread, just dinged 88 in Beyond clearing a poorjoys asylum, i'd say build is pretty good :D

Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Hack, what do you think in doing a similar spec with this, but with a 5l+ Pledge of Hands, while respecing out of dual wield block and grabbing more life/dmg.

Something like this(rough draft):
https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAAx4HHgj0DH0NfA5IEH8RlhUgFecWvxjbHNwfQSLiJpUo-imlKk0s6TWSPydBh0V8R-JJUUmxSn1KyE4qVUtXyVuvXfJh4megakNrF26qc7N08X_Ggh6Cx4Uyh3aMNpMnlSCVLpeXnWOio6Q5pLG0DLXytz686sBUwfPGntCB18_YvdsL3Q3ljuq674jwa_DV-Tf56PzF_gpGcYMJbRktix_HK3gsnI-mRKtVrt-wghAQWIdlr7cyNAQHHwKD21XGOlismPFsNthJGyqN7FWpbio46-RfKnRV


with or w/o vaal pach. Depending on the effectiveness of life leech
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voodoosk8 wrote:
Hack, what do you think in doing a similar spec with this, but with a 5l+ Pledge of Hands, while respecing out of dual wield block and grabbing more life/dmg.

Something like this(rough draft):
https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAAx4HHgj0DH0NfA5IEH8RlhUgFecWvxjbHNwfQSLiJpUo-imlKk0s6TWSPydBh0V8R-JJUUmxSn1KyE4qVUtXyVuvXfJh4megakNrF26qc7N08X_Ggh6Cx4Uyh3aMNpMnlSCVLpeXnWOio6Q5pLG0DLXytz686sBUwfPGntCB18_YvdsL3Q3ljuq674jwa_DV-Tf56PzF_gpGcYMJbRktix_HK3gsnI-mRKtVrt-wghAQWIdlr7cyNAQHHwKD21XGOlismPFsNthJGyqN7FWpbio46-RfKnRV


with or w/o vaal pach. Depending on the effectiveness of life leech


It looks fine, but I'm not sure where you really gain any advantages by using Pledge. Pledge is desirable because it potentially provides a 7-link setup to effectively any spell. Cybil's, while very niche and exclusive to basically incinerate, does the same thing in addition to creating several Offense/Defense synergies.
Fantastic guide, started this one today (extremely budgety, I love it) and got to 47 so far. The part I love most about this build so far is actually the freezing. This build freezes. all. the. time. It's so goddamn satisfying to shatter shit like there's no tomorrow. Now I've actually had a Three Dragons drop for me just a few minutes ago so I was wondering when a good time to use it would be. Not sure if it is now since my damage is still insane and I dont really need it I think.
Since cold damage then longer freezes does that mean no more freezing whatsoever? Do you spec out of the cold cluster all the way in the north as soon as you use 3d?
What about using Added Lightning Damage instead of Added Cold then? Would be able to freeze and shock stuff at the same time...

Anyway thanks again!

edit: whoops I just read that you spec out of the cluster and use 3D at 77, guess you can ignore everything I said except for the thanks :D
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Last edited by cocomoloco#6500 on Sep 16, 2014, 5:27:27 PM
What do you think about shadow start vs. scion start?
Updated:
- Atziri
- Pyre = OP

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cocomoloco wrote:
Fantastic guide, started this one today (extremely budgety, I love it) and got to 47 so far. The part I love most about this build so far is actually the freezing. This build freezes. all. the. time. It's so goddamn satisfying to shatter shit like there's no tomorrow. Now I've actually had a Three Dragons drop for me just a few minutes ago so I was wondering when a good time to use it would be. Not sure if it is now since my damage is still insane and I dont really need it I think.
Since cold damage then longer freezes does that mean no more freezing whatsoever? Do you spec out of the cold cluster all the way in the north as soon as you use 3d?
What about using Added Lightning Damage instead of Added Cold then? Would be able to freeze and shock stuff at the same time...

Anyway thanks again!

edit: whoops I just read that you spec out of the cluster and use 3D at 77, guess you can ignore everything I said except for the thanks :D


Three Dragons isn't necessary at really any point, but it becomes nice for end-game grouping and scaling Incinerate damage really high through shocks. I just updated the thread with my new setup using Pyre to convert added cold and herald of ice damage to more fire to allow the build to even shock bosses. What I didn't expect from the setup was that, like freezing Incinerate, shocking Incinerate causes most of the mobs to just stand there from chain stuns.

Once you do put on 3D only lightning can freeze, but you still have to have freeze chance for it to happen. You could go with Incinerate + LMP/GMP + Echo + Added Cold + Added Lightning and you'd get all the effects and benefits, but at some point the only things that will be dangerous to the build won't be able to get shocked nor frozen with that setup.

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DeadlyParadox wrote:
What do you think about shadow start vs. scion start?


The scion start is more efficient in some ways especially in access to the 6% in block nodes, but because Rumi's Concoction is such an amazing flask for this build everything above 40-45% block gets wasted during the flask effect. Now, that's assuming the build shoots for dual-block corruption on claws. If one or more of those is dropped then getting those block nodes wouldn't be as much of a waste. I picked Shadow because having tested this build pre-1.2 I felt the extra life was superior to having more block above the Rumi's soft-cap.
Ok I gotta ask, what does PYre do that makes it so worthwhile? :P
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darkcrab wrote:
Ok I gotta ask, what does PYre do that makes it so worthwhile? :P


Incoming math....

Incinerate + Echo + LMP + Added Cold + Fire Pen

Without Pyre:
191 - 287 Fire Damage
102 - 146 Cold Damage
293 - 433 Total Damage

With Pyre:
311-458 Fire/Total Damage

So on top of the just converting the damage the fire multipliers that are now applied to the converted cold add another 18 - 25 Fire. More importantly all of the damage now benefits from Fire Pen and has increased the scale of the hits, which is what allows the build to shock higher life targets.

Shock Formula:
Duration = (Damage/(Life/100)) * 276ms * Increased Shock Duration
*Anything less than 300ms doesn't apply shock therefore D >= 300ms

Assuming the target has 75% Fire Resist and then cursed with 20/20 Ele. Weakness the remaining resists will be negated through Fire Pene to be -7% Fire Resist. Therefore the highest fire damage incinerate can do is ~1960 a hit. We also have +50% Increased shock duration from the static blows cluster.

Plugging in the numbers...
300ms = (1960)/(Life/100)) * 276ms * 1.5
Solving for Life...
300ms ÷ 1.5 ÷ 276ms = 1960 ÷ (Life/100)
Life ÷ 100 = 1960 ÷ ~.725
Life = ~2703 x 100
Life = ~270000HP

So by using Prye build can shock mobs up to about 270k HP with 75% Fire Resist.

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