[2.2 updated, sub 5 min lab run video] low life kinetic blast by ddddddddddddddddddddime

even with explosions OR pierce mechanics would keep this build meta-like, and we need that. they just brought stronger maps and monsters, and without an effective wand skill (they finally gave us good nodes for wands in 1.2) whole world would coc or 2h bash around. only the kb coc fw version has bad luck with this change

Yeah I'm pretty sure kinetic blast was always meant to be used with pierce. It was introduced in 1.2 if I recall? That's a long time ago, and GGG has had plenty of time to notice how strong it with lawyne's build being really popular. There are rally only 2 viable wand attack skills in the game when you look at it, power siphon and KB.

And to answer you Lawyne, I am ele reflect proof with 141k gmp dps, using KB - pierce - GMP - pcoc - WED - life leech.

kb came with patch 1.3

nice, and phys is also no issue now I guess. so when running regular maps u don't need to care about reflecting packs, applause, I'd say that's perfect.
we'll see if that is manageable with Mana, too :)

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Lawyne wrote:

kb came with patch 1.3

nice, and phys is also no issue now I guess. so when running regular maps u don't need to care about reflecting packs, applause, I'd say that's perfect.
we'll see if that is manageable with Mana, too :)

Yeah I doubt many people will be rolling ele or phys reflect maps in rotations, especially with thornflesh bloodlines pack that reflect both ele and phys damage. That shit is scary lol, they are pretty rare but if you can't handle it you will rip instantly. Also, thanks and I'm sure the mana version will do fine as well. Your suggestion of RRGGBB is the best combination of dps and survivabilty.

i'll try my best without gear lol, prolly gotta borrow all the stuff from anyone since cyrax didn't come online today^^

keep it up guys.

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stzbttln wrote:

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Dulahan90 wrote:

I'll just leave this here

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1323370 (bug report thread)

It ssems KB coc builds have been killed by this ninja nerf yeah, but self cast frost wall is very useful to kill bosses as it still creates explosions on the wall when it pierces and and when it doesn't pierce as well

Regarding explosions, it doesn't matter if piercing or not? So, only the skills used by Coc are bugged, and the selfcast aren't?

I think I don't understand what you wanted to say.

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Dulahan90 wrote:

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stzbttln wrote:

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Dulahan90 wrote:

I'll just leave this here

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1323370 (bug report thread)

It ssems KB coc builds have been killed by this ninja nerf yeah, but self cast frost wall is very useful to kill bosses as it still creates explosions on the wall when it pierces and and when it doesn't pierce as well

Regarding explosions, it doesn't matter if piercing or not? So, only the skills used by Coc are bugged, and the selfcast aren't?

I think I don't understand what you wanted to say.

What I mean is that the coc frst wall / kinetic blast combo relied on explosions being triggered everytime a projectile pierced a frost wall, it was their main way of dealing damage. With my build, frost wall is only used rarely, as a self cast and only to create a surface where projectiles can be stopped and release explosions to damage a single target, often a lone boss in the map. For my build, it is actually better if projectiles don't pierce the frost wall, because it seems since 2.0 frost wall doesn't proc KB explosions anymore.

Are these 4 HP/hit in the Lust for Carnage cluster so important to sustain your low Lifepool?
Else you could get more Leech and max rate in the Hematophagy cluster!

Also why not taking Iron Grip? It would give you +42% inc Dmg from passives alone!

Edit: Full Leech calculations on page 20.

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Firnefex wrote:

@stzbttln:

I repeatedly looked at your tree/gear and watched your videos, but can't explain the mechanics...
Your Leech values are: 0.8% tree + 0.8% CoE + 2% Gem = 3.6% for Physical and only 2% for Elemental.

With 25% Block, capped Res, 679 Armour and 15% Ref its
15% * 0.75 * 0.25 = 2.8125% minus 2% are 0.8125% Ele Reflect.
15% * 0.75 * 0.9 (lets say 10% Armour Red.) = 10.125% minus 3.6% are 6.525% Phys Reflect.

Because of 4 Ele Buffs and now WED your Wand Dmg should be at least 2/3 Ele + 1/3 Phys?
Ele Ref shouldn't be a problem since you adding enough leech from Physical, with Phys Ref it should be more problematic. But I can't see a difference at all.
Its even worse:
You have no VP and no +max Leech rate. In the videos you often are at 50% and in about 0.5s at full hp, so your Leech rate has to be 5 times higher than the max. How is this possible?




Are these 4 HP/hit in the Lust for Carnage cluster so important to sustain your low Lifepool?
Else you could get more Leech and max rate in the Hematophagy cluster!

Also why not taking Iron Grip? It would give you +42% inc Dmg from passives alone!

Thanks for taking the time to calculate all this, I can take some screenshots of my stats if you want to provide more accurate measurements.

I would love to take the hematophagy cluster, but I am level 99 and already really starving for more passive points :P. Same thing with iron grip, I would like to pick it up but I would rather get the final 12% ES witch node to get me at 7k ES. Iron grip only increases my physical damage, it is more efficient to get crit multiplier or spell damage, which icnreases both phys and elemental.

About leech, I have atziri's acuity, which provide me with instant leech on critical strike, if you look at my last video (138k gmp dps ele ref) you can see at the start that my hp drops to about half because I had 0 charges and I wasn't getting critical strikes much, that's what was making me lose hp. Once I get to 6 charges, I get healed back to full hp without much trouble.

You also need to take into consideration how reflect and instant leech work in this game. You actually leech before you deal damage. This is why vaal pact / acuity are important, but often leave you with 3/4 or half of your hp after killing a bunch of mobs, it's because you take the reflected damage from the last mob after actually leeching from the last mob. So while it may seem dangerous that I get down to half my hp sometimes, it's actually really safe, it's just a side effect of how reflect damage works in path of exile. As long as I don't deal enough damage in 1 hit to 1 mob to 1 shot myself, provided I actually leeched all the way back to max ES, then I am safe.