Cherrubim's Maleficence - Supporter's Unique Item Craft Retrospective

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ropumar wrote:

The design is boring tho.

Perhaps for your gameplay though. But it's not cool to call GGG's work boring. They've restrictions in responding to players per professionalism conduct, but sure as is they're proud of this craft. Hopefully you'll find one to keep too! Cheers (≧∇≦)
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Now that Armour looks solid! i love the chaos DMG but shame its a chest or else id combo it with death oath. :D
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Divinitybagon wrote:
Spoiler
Here's my review / thoughts on the item and its mods:

20% Increased Chaos Damage
This is nothing too amazing. Other % increased damage mods appear on other gear at much higher rates. 20% isn't that amazing but does help bridge the gap that the removal of growth and decay left. Looking at the 1.2 skill tree:
-Method to the Madness: 22% chaos damage, with 2 7% and a 5% damage node before it (more damage then the unique)
-Corruption: Only 18% chaos damage but there's also 8% DoT bonus which effects the 2 pure chaos skills we currently have (Poison Arrow + Viper Strike) with 2 10% chaos damage nodes behind it this wheel also gives more damage then the unique.
Damage over Time nodes (which effect the 2 pure chaos damage skills.):
-Entropy: 27% DoT and 2 9% nodes, the notable giving 7% more damage and the other two nodes giving 2% less

-Growth and Decay (RIP, you will be missed T-T): 18% chaos damage notable with 1% life regen as well as the wheel has 2 9% nodes. Both of these give 2% less chaos damage then unique.

200% Armor / Evasion
While this seems like a lot, without IR this is only 800 AR and 1000 EV which are both doubled (or more!) by a decent rare. With IR it becomes 1800 AR which is respectable matching most rares.

+100 to maximum life
Fantastic mod, nothing bad to say here.

30% increased Leech Rate
While being a nice mod in general, for the two pure chaos damage skills in the game this mod is (currently) useless. Poison arrow you most likely deal little flat damage to leech from and you can't leech from the DoT. Currently most viper strike builds use a +3 weapon which usually does irrelevant damage and provides little to no leech. However with the new viper strike in 1.2 you probably will do respectable damage on hit and have life leech. Also to note this mod is 100% useless for Vaal Pact because Vaal Pact you instantly heal 40% of your leech. When you increase instant (100% leech rate) by 30% it is still instant.
However this mod can be useful for a build using Ming's Heart, Darkscorn, Voltaxic, Added Chaos and other Phys/Element -> Chaos items. However Infernal Mantle cannot use this mod (my personal favorite way to play with chaos damage) as it is also a chest.

Comparing this unique to other Unique Chests:
-Belly of the Beast:
-Belly has less AR / EV then Cherrubims
-Belly typically gives 500 life against the 100 from this chest (proof: my 107 life chest gives 200 less then my belly) -- note that this will give even more with the new life per level.
-Belly gives 10-15 all resistance against Cherrubim's 0
-Belly gives 50% increased Flask Life Recovery rate -- especially helpful with the new flask numbers in 1.2
-Belly gives the aesthetically pleasing Extra Gore mod
-Cherribums looks so much cooler then Belly of the Beast
My opinion:
I would much rather use Belly over this unique. Why? It may have less AR / EV but it gives a lot more life, some resistance and the increased Flask Life Recovery rate while losing the 20% chaos damage.

-Carcass Jack
-Gives 690 max EV against the 1000 from Cherrubims
-70 max roll life against the 100 from Cherrubims
-Gives 9-12 all resistance
-20% IAoE -- Helpful for Poison Arrow
-12% Area damage -- only 12% less then Cherrubims and much more used
-Once again gives the awesome Extra Gore mod.
-Cherribums looks so much cooler then Carcass Jack
My opinion:
I would rather use Carcass Jack on a chaos build that uses an AoE attack. While losing life evasion/armor and 8% damage you get increased aoe, and some resistance.

I love the unique and props to you guys for making it but I feel like it could be better and wouldn't be surprised to see changes to it at a later date -- for better or for worse.

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NotACuckRoach wrote:
Posts on reddit begs to differ. They said "vanilla crap", do you believe it?ψ(`∇´)ψ

To be entirely honest it is very vanilla, life AR / EV are very vanilla and a %increased chaos damage roll isn't really unique. The leech rate mod while being cool isn't super useful for the item and isn't a build enabler like other items.

Hey thanks for your candid review, very enjoyable. Also, what you've said - we've carefully thought of it as well, in fact fought for better mods whilst in the process.

But behind the scenes, there's a lot that is beyond our call to make. This includes GGG who acknowledged the argument points we made as you brought up but after their experimentations and all, it's alway limited by something. Read Charan's thread to learn more in-depth of unique craft design process: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/970105

Despite all the distress, GGG is still amazing and we'll happily continue supporting!
The Gemling Queen favours 'NotACuckRoach'.

Ethaereal │ Exaltreal │ Cherrubim │ Erremes │ Khainne │ Kaelous │ Balzael
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人生はただのゲームだ。楽しむために生きろ。勝利をつかむため遊べ。人生に勝ち、そして喜ぶために生きろ。o(^▽^)o ♪
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Charan wrote:

Cuckroach, I gotta get out of here. This is your thread, but it's full of juicy little morsels. Sorry!

You're always welcomed here Boss! - see that OP credit at the bottom? You belong here oh Supreme Ruler; it's a BLÖW thread!

Besides, no one's better at forum poker here. You always have the trump card to pull against other people's cards! ψ(`∇´)ψ
The Gemling Queen favours 'NotACuckRoach'.

Ethaereal │ Exaltreal │ Cherrubim │ Erremes │ Khainne │ Kaelous │ Balzael
Powered by 2015 Alienware 17" R2 laptop · Standard League · BLÔW Guild · Bird-Day - Aug 7, 2012
人生はただのゲームだ。楽しむために生きろ。勝利をつかむため遊べ。人生に勝ち、そして喜ぶために生きろ。o(^▽^)o ♪
Nice art.
I like it.
Thumbs up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDs-Y5DNH8
Grats on the unique, it will be worth a kilo-ton, especially with the coming buff to viperstrike. My poison arrow ranger would also love it.

edit: forgot to say that the art is awesome too !
Last edited by Renahud#7780 on Aug 19, 2014, 3:05:54 AM
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isildria wrote:
Now that Armour looks solid! i love the chaos DMG but shame its a chest or else id combo it with death oath. :D

Sorry Isildria, but can't have too much good things at once. 。・゜・(ノД`)・゜・。
The Gemling Queen favours 'NotACuckRoach'.

Ethaereal │ Exaltreal │ Cherrubim │ Erremes │ Khainne │ Kaelous │ Balzael
Powered by 2015 Alienware 17" R2 laptop · Standard League · BLÔW Guild · Bird-Day - Aug 7, 2012
人生はただのゲームだ。楽しむために生きろ。勝利をつかむため遊べ。人生に勝ち、そして喜ぶために生きろ。o(^▽^)o ♪
Good work guys
Well done, well done, this is just amazing new unique and we need some normal high end uniques, with no downsides.

Absolutely amazing post, interesting to read, much love put into it.

Best regards, Fary :)
GGG thank you for all the great things you are doing. You have combined every element of all other great Rpg's and joined them together as one Diamond, that will shine Forever.

This is coming straight from the heart <3
What a well written post, impressive!

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