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AlfaTangOh wrote:
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Autocthon wrote:
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AlfaTangOh wrote:
Check out the pic I found online I've posted above, that crossbow is magazine fed. Seeing as how this game has some elements of electromechanics and steampunk in it, I could also see a mag fed crossbow running pretty quick.
Still requires two hands to reload between every shot.
Notice teh crank. That thing doesnt arm itself it just puts the bolt in place automatically.
I agree that crossbows should be 2H.
Crank noted - but cranking that would probably be as fast as knocking a new arrow with a bow.
A skilled archer draws and readies a bow as part of aiming, and can do it in moments. That crank probably takes a minimum of 2-3 revolutions and depending on the draw weight of the crossbow (which is much higher than a bow mind you in order to punch through armor) that's going to take quite a bit longer and you can't line a shot while you do it.
There's simply no way a crossbowman is going to crank that weapon into place, aim, and finally shoot at anywhere near the rate a compositebowman is going to be firing off their arrows at close quarters.
IGN - PlutoChthon, Talvathir Last edited by Autocthon#5515 on Aug 11, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Aug 11, 2014, 11:32:09 AM
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Autocthon wrote:
A skilled archer draws and readies a bow as part of aiming, and can do it in moments. That crank probably takes a minimum of 2-3 revolutions and depending on the draw weight of the crossbow (which is much higher than a bow mind you in order to punch through armor) that's going to take quite a bit longer and you can't line a shot while you do it.
There's simply no way a crossbowman is going to crank that weapon into place, aim, and finally shoot at anywhere near the rate a compositebowman is going to be firing off their arrows at close quarters.
No arguement here. But since there's magic involved, anything's possible.
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Posted byAlfaTangOh#2678on Aug 11, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
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AlfaTangOh wrote:
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Autocthon wrote:
A skilled archer draws and readies a bow as part of aiming, and can do it in moments. That crank probably takes a minimum of 2-3 revolutions and depending on the draw weight of the crossbow (which is much higher than a bow mind you in order to punch through armor) that's going to take quite a bit longer and you can't line a shot while you do it.
There's simply no way a crossbowman is going to crank that weapon into place, aim, and finally shoot at anywhere near the rate a compositebowman is going to be firing off their arrows at close quarters.
No arguement here. But since there's magic involved, anything's possible.
That's called a wand. we have those.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Aug 11, 2014, 11:57:20 AM
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Autocthon wrote:
That's called a wand. we have those.
Well you also have different styles of swords and axes. The fact remains that crossbows appeal to some, and would bring with them a certain style and animation in game.
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Posted byAlfaTangOh#2678on Aug 11, 2014, 1:43:28 PM
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AlfaTangOh wrote:
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That's called a wand. we have those.
Well you also have different styles of swords and axes. The fact remains that crossbows appeal to some, and would bring with them a certain style and animation in game.
I'm not saying that crossbows shouldn't be in. I'm saying that one handed "bows" have no particularly compelling reason to be in the game.
Best case scenario they're essentially wands that reliably roll physical. Which while nice, it isn't particularly compelling. On the other hand crossbows would be the new DEX ranged weapon and bows become Str/Dex (because taht's what they are). Plus XBows could be ranged 2H crit weapons.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Aug 11, 2014, 1:45:54 PM
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oh, i really want to dual wield shield for double block and super reflect!!
and maybe shooting some laserbeams out of my helmet too
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Posted bygloobonious#3560on Aug 12, 2014, 2:30:03 AM
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Autocthon wrote:
...I'm saying that one handed "bows" have no particularly compelling reason to be in the game.
Best case scenario they're essentially wands that reliably roll physical. Which while nice, it isn't particularly compelling. On the other hand crossbows would be the new DEX ranged weapon and bows become Str/Dex (because taht's what they are). Plus XBows could be ranged 2H crit weapons.
You'll get no arguement from me on that. I'd be happy if there was just a crossbow MTX weapon skin for bows.
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Posted byAlfaTangOh#2678on Aug 12, 2014, 6:45:15 AM
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gloobonious wrote:
...and maybe shooting some laserbeams out of my helmet too
How about muskets that shoot that lightning beam like Vaal?
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Posted byAlfaTangOh#2678on Aug 12, 2014, 6:46:25 AM
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One handed bows means you draw BOTH with your teeth?
And after firing, how do you grab 2 new arrows? Hold the bows under the armpits?
Same shit with one-handed crossbows. How do you reload?
It's just stupid, impractical design.
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Also Forum Warrior - Nice necro. Last edited by Nurvus#6072 on Aug 12, 2014, 5:55:49 PM
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Posted byNurvus#6072on Aug 12, 2014, 5:54:41 PM
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Where are the one handed bows?
Wielded by Shiva in the land of pink unicorns, why do you ask?
May your maps be bountiful, exile
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Posted bySisterBlister#7589on Aug 12, 2014, 6:09:05 PM
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