The Void Arcer - CI Crit Arc Build - Many dps [updated for 1.3.0]
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Wondering if this build would work with freezing pulse instead of arc. Any thoughts on this OP ?
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" If you went Crit Freezing Pulse, then yeah, it might possibly work, although I am not sure this would be the most optimal way to do it. The tree wouldn't have to change very much, except for obviously taking cold dmg nodes instead of lightning ones. But as for the gear, you probably wouldn't want to use The Vertex (or specifically, use FP IN The Vertex), since FP doesn't benefit from the extra lvls nearly as much as Arc does. Instead I would use it in a 5L. Also the benefit of the Voidbringer gloves lessens somewhat as you won't be doing as much dmg as with Arc and therefore not get enough out of it the ES on kill mod. On the upside, you doing less dmg might also mean you could use PCoC linked to FP, instead of using it with Ice Spear, so that would spare you a bit of annoyance and free a 4L! Lastly, a switch to the cold version of Doryani's belt seems in order, as well as running Purity of Ice instead of Lightning (or Elements if needed). Other than that, hard to say. Feel free to give it a try :-). |
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" I am inclined to try that at some point, although it's hard for me to imagine how I would be doing more dps with getting stunned all the time. Then again, maybe my imagination is lacking. |
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well i get 51k dps using hast aura and the following gear/tree, i don't think 100k dps is possible with today gear.
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAuMEBwelEVATnhVQFy8abBzcHRQfAiepKPosnC0fNsU26TvhPI5DY0SrRwZJskw1TLNPfVFgVa5V1lfJWPVcil3yXvpfamNDZOdmT2aebRlwUnB9cNVxTXYRe9d-M35Zfq9_xoBWgKSBSYIQhcWIQot6jDaNGY5kj0aPpo_6ms-drp3EoqOkkacIpyuyOLb6tzG4k7vWwFHBxcHzwuzDbdgk2t3b592M3rDfsOAS4vfjauOC44TkIuZ85wvr7uwY8XbyHfLh96b60vyr Last edited by viper4533#2601 on Aug 6, 2014, 4:46:30 PM
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" Your gear is pretty godly, however, your gear setup and tree aren't optimized for the highest damage output. The most impacting choice is you using a rare wand and a shield instead of double Void Batteries, and not utilizing power charges. Just equipping Voids and either using one of the gem slots or another skill linked to Power charge on crit would give a size-able dmg boost. That is also linked to your tree, where you take a LOT of shield nodes instead of spell/elemental dmg, crit multi and, most importantly, power charge nodes. With my gear and tree (and helping Merciless Alira) I have 9 power charges, which alone give you 450% increased critical strike chance. So even though your gear is much better than mine I am pretty sure I still have higher crit chance, not to mention the 450% increased spell dmg thanks to the Void Batteries. |
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" maybe with 2 of the voids it would be possible so you might be right i think but then again my sheild has over 100% critical on it and 65% sp. also i would lose tones of es and be paper. i see with 9x29% spellpower from node and 2 wands your can get crazy spell power after 9 charges. 19% increased Spell Damage 80% reduced Spell Damage 15% increased Cast Speed 63% increased Global Critical Strike Chance +40 to maximum Mana +1 maximum Power Charge 25% increased Spell Damage per Power Charge Last edited by viper4533#2601 on Aug 6, 2014, 7:39:47 PM
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" Definitely going to go crit FP, I see that in its current state there isn't any other viable way to play it. I don't have Shavs so I can't run low life but everything else in your build seems viable. I do have some low life items (2xReadbeak, Spring Leaf, Wondertraps ect...) that I was trying to use to setup a righteous fire build a long time ago, I just recently came back to the game and don't even know if that build is viable anymore. What else would you suggest for a helm piece? The Vertex looks like best in slot for every ES user. The only other thing I would consider is Alphas Howl, or a godly rare. Currently running my FP in my 5l chest FP-Life Leech-Mana Leech-Spell Echo-LMP Will 1% leech from Doryani's allow me to remove life leech from my setup? 1% seems really really low... If its true then I would put PCoC instead of Life Leech. Seems like Voidbringer is best in slot too, Maligaros might be slightly better due to the crit but wouldn't Void still be best in a low life build? Atziri's Acuity seem expensive but also a possible alternative I can only run 2-3 auras depending on which they are, by picking up some of the %mana nodes I didn't pick up(mainly deep thoughts)will I be able to run an additional 1-2? I seem to remember a time where I ran almost every aura in my gear, that's Discipline/Grace/Clarity/Haste/Purity , Is this still possible with additional mana nodes and gear? Possibility that this might allow me to remove Mana leech from my 5l as well? Also curious why purity of ice over regular purity of elements? Is it just for reflect mobs? I will be fixing my passives when the xpac comes out to something like this Passive skill tree build Curious what your thoughts are on the aura nodes, Influence vs Inner Force vs Sovereignty. Thank you Thank you Thank you for your help and insight, I really appreciate it! Here's my current build and gear setup for reference
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Last edited by rufiothelostkid#0928 on Aug 7, 2014, 10:44:56 AM
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I would like to see the dps a dual void gets with a 6l chest. the problem is they wont have block and have only 4k es unless they have a 1k es chest they will get about 6-7k but still no chance to block. also vs a good sheild that give 70 spell power and 109 critical it may not offer much more damage due to the -80 spellpower penalty
Last edited by viper4533#2601 on Aug 7, 2014, 2:51:15 PM
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" You seem to be rich. Why don't you equip them and then see what your damage is? Or even better, have the exact same tree, items and gem setups I am using and report back how it works :-). In case you actually decide to do that, feel free to PM me with any questions or details. I still have 5.8k ES with no shield and a shitty, 420ES armor, although that would go down a bit if I re-specced out of CI. The good part is that with Shavs you can run Grace, and with some evasion+ES nodes it would give you a lot of evasion chance, a lot more than you would get from the block chance on shield. Then again, the running theme with my build is that your best defense is offense, so there is that. |
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" Firtly, let me say that I have never played FP, so I am maybe not the right person to ask :-). But anyway... The Vertex isn't really that great. As you will stay CI, the chaos res won't help you, and as you are gonna be using a 5L, the 50% reduced mana cost isn't gonna help you either. The Eveasion and ES stats on it are great, but you can get similar ES Hubris Circlet with some mana or int on it (or resists if you need them) for cheaper. The 1% isn't all the much, you are right. I am not sure how exactly the FP would work so I can't say if that would be enough for you. You would get a lot of defense from mobs being permafrozen, however, for some bosses or mobs you can't immediately kill or freeze it might not be enough. If you can afford it, you might want to try to get your hands on a corrupted Eye of Chayula with 1% light leech and see how that works. Voidbringer gloves would be impossible to run for you because of the 80% mana cost on ALL spells you cast. I can only get away with it because I am using my main spell in The Vertex. And again, you can get pretty decent ES gloves for cheaper. I am running three auras with the tree nodes I get. With Discipline, Purity of Light and Clarity, I am left with about 220 mana left. Theoretically I could run 2x60%+1x40% aura on my mana, but then I would probably be left with not enough mana to cast things. I don't see any reason, though, to run auras different from mine. Yes, Purity of Ice for reflect. Not sure if it would be necessary for every map though with FP, or just for ele reflect/-max maps. My thoughts on aura nodes are, get as many as you can :-). Inner Force isn't gonna do more for you than the aura nodes for this build though, as it doesn't affect charges, and it is really only gonna buff your Arctic Armour. Either way, have fun. |
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