Content Update 1.1.5 Teaser Video

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sidtherat wrote:

Echo looks retarded. the most boring and 'OP-creating' support ever with absurd visuals.. i thought multistrike 12aps animation/sound looks bad. but this casting 'thing' has moved the 'looking bad' goal post

no word about it NOT working with CoCS?

Ball lightning.. yeah right.

so the power creep is in full swing

EK change? why? foremost - WHY while CoCS has not been adjusted yet?

and that staff... Doon mace (the one with lvl30 iron will) was ok, due to only 3 links, but this staff is a potential 7link and it is an instant BiS for several self-caster specs. this probably makes freezing pulse FoTM again

will not work with echo
this stuff sucks, 100%+ this is just good wand, additional mana not even equal with 250 ES shield + block , 7 links <<<<< +2 gems 6link

this is good staff, but not OP

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sidtherat wrote:

Echo looks retarded. the most boring and 'OP-creating' support ever with absurd visuals.. i thought multistrike 12aps animation/sound looks bad. but this casting 'thing' has moved the 'looking bad' goal post

no word about it NOT working with CoCS?

Ball lightning.. yeah right.

so the power creep is in full swing

EK change? why? foremost - WHY while CoCS has not been adjusted yet?

and that staff... Doon mace (the one with lvl30 iron will) was ok, due to only 3 links, but this staff is a potential 7link and it is an instant BiS for several self-caster specs. this probably makes freezing pulse FoTM again

You're wrong on almost everything.

How about everyone waits until the patch for feedback....

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ellefanor wrote:

7 links <<<<< +2 gems 6link

if that one 'free' socket is lvl4 empower.. this staff potentially trumps ALL other options

btw - when soultaker/mjolnr/auxium and other retarded items were released - people were saying the same 'it is ok, not OP' and instantly prices rose to 50+ exalts.. this staff is not going to be cheaper

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The EK changes ARE an indirect CoCS nerf, any CoCS build using EK will have a lower damage effectiveness and will not benefit from either the castpoint reduction or the lower mana cost.

first - EK damage reduced by 25% only makes CoCS builds SAFER. as the dmg is already enough

second - this is the 'kaoms case' again (When theyve changed ENTIRE passive tree just to NOT nerf kaoms chest). theyll ruin balance of all spells just to NOT be forced to admit that CoCS was a retarded idea and their 'fix' was not a fix at all? i hope you are wrong

Slayer: did not expect anything else from you. youll defend it each time something stupid is happening with cliche 'wait until you see'. ive already seen echo animation (it is retarded) and can do the math on echo and that new staff. what the 'wait' is going to change? nothing.

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sidtherat wrote:

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ellefanor wrote:

7 links <<<<< +2 gems 6link

if that one 'free' socket is lvl4 empower.. this staff potentially trumps ALL other options

btw - when soultaker/mjolnr/auxium and other retarded items were released - people were saying the same 'it is ok, not OP' and instantly prices rose to 50+ exalts.. this staff is not going to be cheaper

The EK changes ARE an indirect CoCS nerf, any CoCS build using EK will have a lower damage effectiveness and will not benefit from either the castpoint reduction or the lower mana cost.

first - EK damage reduced by 25% only makes CoCS builds SAFER. as the dmg is already enough

second - this is the 'kaoms case' again (When theyve changed ENTIRE passive tree just to NOT nerf kaoms chest). theyll ruin balance of all spells just to NOT be forced to admit that CoCS was a retarded idea and their 'fix' was not a fix at all? i hope you are wrong

Empower is better off in a staff with + gem levels. Which would be an automatic gem in a staff build anyways.

Tis a Timmy.

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60x7 wrote:

At this point I'm beginning to wonder how many options we really need to do the same thing; which is kill stuff. Otherwise it looks like some good additions.

We need as many as possible so I have new stuff to try when I RIP :D

After a certain point its same shit different graphics and personally I'd rather they focus on expanding content over different skill types and graphics. especially when there are already so many skills to choose from.

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Hojirozame wrote:

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txfirefighter wrote:

What was that orb in the bottom left of his inventory?

Looks like the Spell Echo gem.

Nice vid ZiggyD!

I predict Ball Lightning will be a quest reward for beating Hillock in Cruel (purely based on Arctic Breath, which is the only other lv 31 non totem/aura gem), and Spell Echo will be drop only but obtainable from the Siosa quest in Merciless.

Siosa would make perfect sense given that multi-strike is obtainable there and this seems a rough equivalent.

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60x7 wrote:

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bitV wrote:

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60x7 wrote:

At this point I'm beginning to wonder how many options we really need to do the same thing; which is kill stuff. Otherwise it looks like some good additions.

We need as many as possible so I have new stuff to try when I RIP :D

After a certain point its same shit different graphics and personally I'd rather they focus on expanding content over different skill types and graphics. especially when there are already so many skills to choose from.

Sure, but that 'certain point' is in terms of dozens of interesting combos, and i'm going to run out eventually.

And don't worry, they're doing both. It's something that I encounter a lot as a dev myself, people seem to assume that a company producing multiple products/features means they are mutually exclusive, that's not the case. The resources they have working on other content will be reasonably distinct from the resources focusing on balance and skills, so it's not actually a reasonable assumption/complaint to assume that work on one necessarily hinders the other to any substantial extent.

PLZ FIX HOW FUCKED UP VERDANT MTX SET LOOKS ON TEMPLAR.

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ellefanor wrote:

first - EK damage reduced by 25% only makes CoCS builds SAFER. as the dmg is already enough

second - this is the 'kaoms case' again (When theyve changed ENTIRE passive tree just to NOT nerf kaoms chest). theyll ruin balance of all spells just to NOT be forced to admit that CoCS was a retarded idea and their 'fix' was not a fix at all? i hope you are wrong

So what if CoCS isn't as suicidal? To me that is going some way to counteract some of the inherent stupidity in the build. Also, it doesn't change the fact that it's a direct reduction in EK CoCS damage effectiveness while self-cast EK is reworked and arguably slightly buffed - CoCS with less damage effectiveness is going to deter more players than will be attracted to it due to the fact that it is now less rippy. CoCS is a pretty retarded sure, at the very least it's a total cheese-fest and at the worst it's a reason to kick people from my mapping parties.

And I hardly consider that a faster, more efficient spell is in any way 'ruined' in terms of balance, in fact it's something I much prefer. The main problem I have with EK, Arctic Breath etc is how laborious and sluggish they feel to use, the prospects of a faster more agile iteration of these skills makes them much more appealing to me - personally I'm looking forward to it and might revisit my EK theory crafting, so I totally disagree that this is the Kaoms situation all over again - It even makes me think that a cast speed LOH EK might be doable, but only science will tell :)

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koez wrote:

PLZ FIX HOW FUCKED UP VERDANT MTX SET LOOKS ON TEMPLAR.

all the sets look pretty shit on templar tbh.