[PETITION] Remove Short Allocation

Except Short is the only 'fair' allocation. FFA favors melee, and Permanent gives everything to random people. I can't seriously be the only one who's lost good items and currency because it was allocated to someone on the other side of the screen.

SA's timer is also based on how far away you were on kill so ranged aren't at a disadvantage.

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SilentOppressor wrote:

Except Short is the only 'fair' allocation. FFA favors melee, and Permanent gives everything to random people. I can't seriously be the only one who's lost good items and currency because it was allocated to someone on the other side of the screen.

SA's timer is also based on how far away you were on kill so ranged aren't at a disadvantage.

If you want fair, permanent allocation is the only option.

Short allocation only protects it for a bit, and that means you have to sacrifice gameplay to get your loot before anyone else does. This distracts from gameplay, and does not allow players to immerse themselves without hurting them.

What we should have is a loot system similar to Diablo 3's, where you see only your loot and monsters drop loot specific to players individually.

If anything, I'd like the option to PRE-SET perma allocation. so many times im goin solo, in invite someone to play with me, and its auto-short allocation. Highly annoying.

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Natharias wrote:

If you want fair, permanent allocation is the only option.

So you've never been screwed over by SA? Killed a mob that dropped a Divine or a Bino's or w/e except it was greyed out and you stared for three seconds as some guy runs across the screen and takes your loot? Its bad enough in SA where you have a chance to get it, in PA you don't even get that.

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Natharias wrote:

Short allocation only protects it for a bit, and that means you have to sacrifice gameplay to get your loot before anyone else does. This distracts from gameplay, and does not allow players to immerse themselves without hurting them.

Except the whole loot tension thing is the whole game in one little piece. You are an exile aiming for every advantage over the other guy. That is the immersion, not everyone saying "yeah okay that's yours"

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Natharias wrote:

What we should have is a loot system similar to Diablo 3's, where you see only your loot and monsters drop loot specific to players individually.

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SilentOppressor wrote:

So you've never been screwed over by SA?

No.

1. I only played SA for a short while, and when I did I made sure I got my loot without dying and without giving anyone else a chance to get my allocated loot.

2. I play PA now, because I'd rather immerse myself in the game than worrying about my rewards.

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SilentOppressor wrote:

Killed a mob that dropped a Divine or a Bino's or w/e except it was greyed out and you stared for three seconds as some guy runs across the screen and takes your loot?

Well, it ain't your loot if it ain't allocated to you, is it?

I've seen items that I wanted drop for others, items that others wanted drop for them, items others wanted drop for me, and items I wanted drop for me.

If you play enough, you see just about every type of situation.

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SilentOppressor wrote:

Its bad enough in SA where you have a chance to get it, in PA you don't even get that.

There is no such thing as "no chance". You either continue fighting and risk losing your loot or you stop fighting and work on getting your loot. If you're playing with an elemental buzzsaw, you'll have no reason to fight unless he doesn't.

As to PA, it removes the chance of you stealing other's loot and them from stealing yours. It is permanently given to a player provided they are there to pick it up.

The only way around PA is to rush through the area and hope the person it's allocated to, and everyone else, misses it. I used to put my portal a screen away from good drops and hoped that the person would either die, leave the area without noticing it, or that they had to TP to town to drop off a full inventory. I got quite a few drops this way. I've also found that doing this to players can make them dislike you and prefer SA, or will go over the entire area inch by inch. Telling them "Hey, mirror of kalandra by my tp" will make them want to party with you again and even trust you on SA. There are a few people who won't touch anything that was allocated to someone else, and if someone says that it was and they didn't notice, they'll give it back.

"What goes around, comes around."

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SilentOppressor wrote:

Except the whole loot tension thing is the whole game in one little piece. You are an exile aiming for every advantage over the other guy. That is the immersion, not everyone saying "yeah okay that's yours"

Yes, but that is not immersing yourself in the game. If this game ever wants any semblance of actual party play, loot won't be part of it.

This is because party play requires everyone to depend on everyone else to provide something, and that means the party must work together to clear enemies. This leaves no room for looting while there is fighting, otherwise it is a detriment to the group and nobody will group with you again.

Sure, looting while fighting is fun and gives you an advantage, but those players won't group with you if they don't like the fact you don't contribute.

But the way parties work right now, unless you deal at least 20k dps, you should group with someone who does and just loot. No group play whatsoever.

Just change the default one to PA. Everything is fine.

In my opinion, you should play what you like, but one change to SA that I would like to see is ability to set timer by your self, so if you don't like PA, you can set SA to be for example one minute, 30 sec ect. So practically you would be able to take some stuff that other people don't want cause if it needs a minute for you to pick your stuff you shouldn't have it