Map Mods: Stasis / Hemomancy need to be removed

I agree on Bloodmagic and on CI. The others... hmm... the Chaos-Damage can screw some builds badly, but not so many as CI does.

Actually I wonder, can you get CI and Bloodmagic on the same map^^.

There is a simple fact how at least bloodmagic can be changed. Instead of making it bloodmagic make it "Skills damage you in the most effective way instead of consuming the amount in mana", for most chars this will be taking chaos-damage. A CI-Character will propably be hit by physical damage (unless he has low resistances and some armor).

The funny part might be actual side-effects. Getting cursed by Frostbite might reduce your cold-resistance so far that you deal frostdamage to yourself and actually freeze yourself in place. At least it would be more interesting than the simple BM-Mod that doesn't allow some builds to participate in the map by any useful means.

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Moosifer wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Oh, I get it now.

Still, I'm not sure if your intended effect would be the real one. Would map groups reroll the map as you intend, or simply kick out the CI people and find others? I'm worried your idea would be subverted, causing more rotation in membership of map groups, leading to a more mercenary, less team-centric map grouping experience.

Pub groups will always be unsettling but if this is happening with friends it's terrible friends not bad map affixes.

You seem to be assuming one can not have more than 6 friends who play the same league. If you have a "mapping social network" of 11 other players who you deeply respect, are you a "terrible friend" because you swap out with someone else to let them eat the Blood Magic affix?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

If you have a "mapping social network" of 11 other players who you deeply respect, are you a "terrible friend" because you swap out with someone else to let them eat the Blood Magic affix?

Even on life based character you have to be desperate to do Bloodmagic map, I don't do it on any character (and have 11/12 life based builds).

Unless of course you have Bloodmagic keystone, because I heard that someone somewhere have taken it... never seen with my own eyes on any ppl I ever grouped.

You just need to run one map without auras.
It's definitely manageable, without it being too difficult.

I'm wondering if there isn't a non-CI condition to run the bloodmagic affix, because I have not seen a bloodmagic map in ages.

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Fruz wrote:

You just need to run one map without auras.
It's definitely manageable, without it being too difficult.

Maybe, but for my average character it's combination of Enfeeble (no Hatred) with no regen (no Clarity), ele weakness (no Purity) and in addition reduced AR/evasion (no Grace/Determination).

For mere 15% IIQ when only "of Enfeeblement" and "of Smothering" gives in total 38% IIQ.

I know, that according to Chris BM is soooo strong, but they are probably overestimate it usefulness a little.

Not counting, that anyway it's no go for may LL/CI friends.

Enfeeble is far far worse than no hatred .....
You don't need clarity when you are running BM, that's the main benefit of BM : you don't need to manage your resources at all :/.

If you build relies on purity to cap you resists, it comes from your gear and you should definitely upgrade it.

I don't see any problem here, only the loss of hatred is a real thing.

The only problem with this mode is CI, that's all.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

You seem to be assuming one can not have more than 6 friends who play the same league. If you have a "mapping social network" of 11 other players who you deeply respect, are you a "terrible friend" because you swap out with someone else to let them eat the Blood Magic affix?

If you get kicked out of all future maps because they needed to have 6 people to do one map you couldn't run, your friends are assholes.

At the beginning of OB we put together a group to have a friend be the first to hit 100, he ended up not being able to put in the time so it disbanded. But we had 10-15 people all working towards this goal. We kept him with 5 people all the time and it was first come first serve when he logged on, otherwise no one touched the higher maps without him. If someone in the group couldn't do an affix that he could but it was a well rolled map, whoever could, joined the rest just waited for the next map. There's nothing wrong with sitting out a map you can't do, but kicked out of a group because 5 of them can run BM and you can't is just a dick move on their part.

Why is a BM mod more justified than a CI one?

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Why is a BM mod more justified than a CI one?

Why do people keep comparing things that have nothing to do with each other whatsoever ?

They are pretty similar, they require you to have gear and talents set up a specific way to be effective, and that setup tends to preclude an efficient use of the other keystone.