Further Update to Map-only Uniques

The fact that you considered this change in the first place is absolutely despicable. The amount of greed and shadiness at work there was disgusting. Only after people are threatening to leave and asking for refunds did you make this thread. You had no insight whatsoever that this would be our reaction? Is your entire team (and the "Alpha" members too) living in a bubble? Unbelievable. You should be ashamed.

So much qq...
Oh dear lord....

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HUGE_QUADS wrote:

The fact that you considered this change in the first place is absolutely despicable. The amount of greed and shadiness at work there was disgusting. Only after people are threatening to leave and asking for refunds did you make this thread. You had no insight whatsoever that this would be our reaction? Is your entire team (and the "Alpha" members too) living in a bubble? Unbelievable. You should be ashamed.

It's a free game dude.
You should be ashamed.

All uniques should be able to drop from any high level non map areas, even if the chance is .0000001%, theres still always that possibility.

Give credit where it's due, well done GGG, good move. Maybe going forward test an initial philoshy like this before implementation. I am sure you will get upfront feedback as you get it now. A bit more of a pro-active approach.

Arnold Schwarzenegger:

2. Break the rules

We have so many rules in life about everything, break the rules! It is impossible to be a true original if you to well behaved and not break the rules, you have to think outside the box. WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING ON THIS WORLD IF ALL YOU WANT IS TO BE LIKED BY EVERYONE AND AVOID TROUBLE? The only way that I ever got any place was by breaking some of the rules..


The highlighted text is for GGG developers.. Question you should ASK yourself: Is making all players happy the right way how to make our game better? Answer it for yourself, am out of here.. :/

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nikoon wrote:

Break the rules

Get a load of this guy.

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Mokihiki wrote:

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minus4 wrote:

I felt the gating of uniques was a good change to encourage people to explore more into high level maps. I want GGG to know I support it. But I guess the majority of the community has different views.

Personally I don't think any of those uniques were powerful enough to rival ilvl 78 rares though, a lot of them were even build enablers. And gating builds behind high lvl maps was a bad idea in every way.

exactly what i wanted to answer, powerful rares are a big enough incentive to do high level maps. beside the higher experience gain.

on a related note: other complaints are that difficult maps arent rewarding enough for the risk the player takes to do them, itemwise. why not increase the experience gain you get from those maps if devs are afraid of giving too much items?

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nikoon wrote:

Majority sux.. Thats why D3 SUX.. They NERFED it that majority can play it. Now none playes it anymore, cause its boring.. GGG follows Blizzard footsteps.. :/

what should change in your opinion so that only a minority can get to maps? 50% exp loss on death?

think of you running the game: how would you deal with the loss of income from quitting players because they failed at the difficulty wall too early and left for easier games? how do you handle the situation if you have to shutdown servers because you can't pay for them but you need more people playing the game to cover the costs?

this is no open source, free time - fan project, it's a real company with many employees who lose their jobs if the income stops and servers go down.

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HUGE_QUADS wrote:

The fact that you considered this change in the first place is absolutely despicable. The amount of greed and shadiness at work there was disgusting. Only after people are threatening to leave and asking for refunds did you make this thread. You had no insight whatsoever that this would be our reaction? Is your entire team (and the "Alpha" members too) living in a bubble? Unbelievable. You should be ashamed.

I am just as disgusted as you are. I really don't know what the hell they are thinking coming up with a lot of these design decisions. Even without this change, the game is plagued by layers and layers and layers of uneeded RNG that are masqueraded as difficulty.

There're still uniques specific to map drops - think Dyadus and Auxium fall into this category becouse one is lvl-req 69 (possibly can drop from dominius) and another is lvl-req 70 so it drops in zone lvl 68+. I would welcome more map exclusive uniques becouse it heavy cc/dps/survavibility builds more appealing then braindead sporkers with insane IIR/IIQ farming lunaris and getting lots of stuff without any risk whatsoever.

Also when ppls say that high lvl maps should be farmed for rares, not uniques i disagree. You have better chances to get already prerolled unique that worth a lot then a great rare item. For a matter of fact i've farmed loads of lvl 73-75 maps and nearly all my cash came from uniques. Between all rare drops and alchemied items i've got 25 ex max, 2 days ago Dyadus droped in 68 map (...) and sold for same.

Also i hope GGG will come to their sences and unnerf nerfed legendaries, becouse for those who got them before riding through poe content is much easier. Proper aproach would be to make them absolete over time, introduce new uniques that can compare with old in usefuless but as it is those who had it easy still have it easy, rest are forced to pay triple price (at least) to get them or spend a mirror on item that at the most is comprable. At least in D3 devs provided alternative to legacy items and new rebranded legendaries/rares, in POE it's still soultaker or gimp yourself for half melee builds, Shavronne or no low life features etc. and so on.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not jelly (mostly playing reave anyway). Just think it's wrong to leave gamebreaking items in place without offering new players alternative to them.

I agree with your post Chris, but if Kaoms isn't on the list of map only uniques, why is anything. Maybe just lower the ilvl required so it's not so prohibitive.