PvP Theorycraft: Most Popular / Strongest build?

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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Amarena wrote:

14k dps with ice spear and I couldnt kill a regen marauder spamming ground slam.

Your DPS is useless if you can't use your spell because your stunned.

You dont get it. He was standind still while I attack. It was retarded.

He has max resists, and you weren' using a 2x curse to bring down resists and temp chains?

Your spears weren't critting?

Hint: Since max resists is probably considered the norm, witches need to obtain and level resistance gems:
- fire/lightning/cold pierce support gems.
- flammability/conductivity/frostbite curses if you can stack it with elemental weakness and a defensive curse.

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Googleplex wrote:

Everyone already knows the most popular PvE build, so no need to go into that.

I don't :(. What are these builds?

^frost crit witch, afaik

If no nerf bait comes I am definetly going to make a mara on OBT.
I've been warning everyone of how broken they are, and pvp is just another proof.

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Crossflip wrote:

^frost crit witch, afaik

You mean freezing pulse/ice spear witches? I was bored to death spamming those 2 skills when I first tried out witches. Really enjoying my detonate dead/exploding skellies witch instead, although she'd probably suck in pvp.

we need FAST HIT RECOVERY or similar for PvP

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2i0 wrote:

we need FAST HIT RECOVERY or similar for PvP

With a 75% block chance char I would laugh for a considerable time at groundslam spammers while I couldn't recover from the hits or whatever repetitive small stuns they caused. I mean, it was for like 15 seconds haha.

I'd like to know specific data on this 14k dps witch and this Marauder which out regenned that damage.

First, PVP has damage scaling, which SIGNIFICANTLY reduces all damage done. My 999% crit mult Ranger has failed to OHKO a few players in 28 pvp as a result. I think all your damage is reduced by 78%~, so you don't really have 14k dps in the pvp arena, you probably have 3k dps.

Secondly, you didn't give us any stats. What's your crit mult? What curses are you using? How did the fight go down?

And without knowing the Marauder's stats, it's equally a pointless discussion.

I think the only way you're going to beat a Marauder who's got over 80% max cold resist, is to have well over 1000% critical multiplier at level 80. You also need dual curse.

And I don't think nerfing Marauders is the solution. I think the solution is offering players more ways to deal with Marauders other than stacking critical multiplier. I also think the damage reduction for PVP will turn out to be way too harsh for some builds, offense already isn't rewarded enough - everyone is going to build hyper defensive for PVP because offense just isn't rewarded enough by items/passive tree.