Vaults of Atziri feedback
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I always thought that, should vaults be bumped up to i69-71, it would be a lot nicer as, at least, the whites/yellows may-could be-possibly used for crafting.
Ive done it 4? times, end result being 2 uniques, and alot of yellows for alch matching |
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I run Mf gear & I can say with confidence that once you get 100+ IIR then yellows are a LOT more common. 150%+ seems to be another step where you can expect rares from every blue & yellow pack, 200% means you not only run out of ID scrolls but TP's aswell as you are constantly going back to town to sell. You know your MF is 'working' when you pick up every ID scroll that drops & you still run out.
Back to the map, I haven't done it myself but I have seen a few runs & I would have to say that it does seem like a big anti-climax like finding a Golden Ticket to Willy Wonka's Factory only to find out that Willy Wonka is actually a tramp that lives in the bins behind a 7Eleven. I think the vault should be at least a 69 map (higher post OB), even if you don't actually get the best items in the game there should be a possibility of it happening. You don't have to kill any mobs in the map so the items are all for free so it's fair to say that whatever you get is a bonus but considering the rarity of the map it seems unbalanced to only be able to get fairly low level endgame gear. The map should not guarantee something good but there should always be a chance. LMAO at people stacking mf for Vaults...Nope! Chuck Testa |
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" Having plenty of IIR for farming is definitely very useful. The OP sifted through a bunch of bad rares from one map. That doesn't prove that IIR isn't helpful in farming. I got TONS more rares on my mf character than my character with little to no magic find. One is obviously better than the other for finding rares/uniques. Standard Forever
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" I don't see why people think this. Why would you think rarity is a garbage stat? I have ran around 50% quanitity and about 200% rarity and it works wonders. Standard Forever
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I have done this map twice, both times with people streaming which is the only reason I agreed to do it a second time.
Sure it is a fairly decent source of iLevel 62 items, but at the stage of the game I was at I was only interested in iLevel 66+ items (or in fact iLevel 71 items, which I already had a few of but was still trying to craft something decent). The biggest reason I dont like running it is that there is 0% chance to get higher level maps, and while running maps my goal is to get higher level maps, therefore using this unique map is counter to my goal & essentially a waste of a good level 62 map. If I got it again I would scour it instead of selling it, I'm not the type to waste my time trying to scam people. If I were to make a single change to this item, I would allow +2 level of maps to drop from the chests. I would keep the drop rates the same, so you wouldnt be guaranteed a better map, but at least there would be a chance and I wouldnt consider scouring it. |
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" Could be done at least for the big chests, just like as they were "bosses" ^^ invited by timer @ 10.12.2011
-- deutsche Community: www.exiled.eu & ts.exiled.eu |
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iamstryker,
I have LOTS of experience running mf gear (as high as 200 IIQ and 200+ IIR in HC). Not so much recently, since I've only really played in two 1 week events, but I did run with as much as 100% IIQ in the one event, after the mf gear nerf, it paid off handsomely, as it usually does. MrDDT bought 2 exalteds (iirc) from me in the race, I also used one, I sold a stack of alchs, a bunch of chaos, regals and chisels to Psyk near the end of the race. Solo throughout the race, with 4 stash tabs and never using a recipe. This was leftovers, I used dozens of alchs and chaos, hundreds of alterations, I also picked up a whole bunch of uniques (5-10), had hundreds of jewelers, a 5-link weapon, lots of fusings, GCPs, divines, blesseds. I'll take any IIR I can get cheaply, of course, but I would never prioritize it over IIQ or some other stats. Here's a simple scenario, if you were given the choice of Vaults of Atziri with 1000% IIQ or a Vaults of Atziri with 2000% IIR, which is more likely to have better payoff? Having run the one with 2000% IIR, it's not even close to a choice to me, the total value of the items AND currency (and I'm not talking about rare matching and crap) me and my party member got probably didn't even total 1-2 GCP, and this after I spent 20 chisels on it. I get more from running ledge a few times with reasonable IIQ. |
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Personally, all uniques I found were found with a certain about of IIR, around 50%.
Ultimately, mf is a questionable stat, though. In Hardcore, it makes sense; You risk permanent death with worse equipment, for the chance to find better equipment. In Default, however, you really just trade killspeed (and a bit of convenience) for more potential reward per kill; It's an academic choice how you will achieve better results, and if you find something good chances are you won't be using it in favour of mf gear. As to the map, it seems to really evoke an image of wealth and reward that it can't stand up to. Zaanus:
Global chat: Mechanics for A work one way, B for another, C for a third but also with A, B uses C but not A, and D uses A&B but not C ___ Isn't a "no" better than an ignore? |
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" True but we are talking about IIQ vs. IIR as a stat on gear, i'm not refering to the unique map. IIR is easier to stack to high amounts on gear and getting a ton more rares is a huge benefit to farming. Maybe I misunderstood you and you were referring to IIR as a garbage stat just on the unique map? IIR is certainly not a garbage stat. Standard Forever
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I generally got a ton of rares with decent IIQ and fairly low IIR anyway, I just don't value IIR highly, it never worked very well for me, it may work better for you, I really don't know. I will say that I tend to play solo, only have a few stash tabs and never use recipes.
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