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aldorus wrote:
They had absolutely clearly stated that the character will receive a free respec only in case his new build has discontinuities.

Your new build does not have discontinuities. So, you get no respec. To put it simple - nice try to speculate on free respec but the plan backfired and the regrets is the price.

In my opinion, this solution GGG put in place was the best in regards of fair play concerning the keystone allocation challenge. Which is probably the reason behind you speculating on that chaos resist node.


So true.. I actually find it quite funny because people on reddit and even threads on here were trying to figure out "how many points do I need to allocate to get a free respec." Everyone that just went into the chaos res node got caught and backfired in their face lol.
Last edited by NeOZealouS#1834 on Jul 16, 2013, 9:27:46 AM
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aldorus wrote:
They had absolutely clearly stated that the character will receive a free respec only in case his new build has discontinuities.

Your new build does not have discontinuities. So, you get no respec. To put it simple - nice try to speculate on free respec but the plan backfired and the regrets is the price.

In my opinion, this solution GGG put in place was the best in regards of fair play concerning the keystone allocation challenge. Which is probably the reason behind you speculating on that chaos resist node.


Fair play would be to refund the 3 (or any amount if in another place) dead pathway nodes, this simply as the dead pathway nodes are discontinued.

As far as fair with regards to the challenges I'd say it's unfair from the get go as you have alpha testers that could benefit from it for sure and others that invested more that got a free respec. If you wanted fair in this regard they would have had to delay the changes until the 4 months was up...

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NeOZealouS wrote:
So true.. I actually find it quite funny because people on reddit and even threads on here were trying to figure out "how many points do I need to allocate to get a free respec." Everyone that just went into the chaos res node got caught and backfired in their face lol. Funniest part about it is, Redblade is being quite verbal about it and if you check his threads, he just sold a 6L shavs... He has plenty of currency to have gone further in and gotten a free respec.

Too bad =/


Stalk much?

Anyway, me selling a 6L Shav's have little to nothing to do with this. I hope if this policy is unchanged that you end up with a huge chunk of unused pathway nodes in an upcoming change so you might realize it's a poor policy in the first place.
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Last edited by Redblade#3843 on Jul 16, 2013, 9:27:22 AM
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Redblade wrote:
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Chris wrote:
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Redblade wrote:
How about the fact that I have a pathway of points leading to nothing and no respec...


As far as we can see, your tree is still valid under the new layout. Only trees that became impossible were refunded (like normal).


Valid sure...making sense? Not in a million years.



That is ENTIRELY your fault. My brother did the same with 3 of his chars. He read that the CHAOS RESIST node would be moved closer to Duelist, and he used Regret orbs to go to that node thinking YEEEAHH FREEE RESPEC. All three of his chars looks like that for trying to trick the system. You did it too thinking it would give you a free respec and that is what you get. I, on the other hand, went all the way into the Shield Block nodes so I did get a respec on my Marauder.

Any way, my lvl 67 Ranger has been retired since this passive tree change is even worse to me (as a Lioneye user) than it was before. Good news for Shadow Rangers who can transverse on the outer rightmost branch and get all the good stuff while Rangers are stuck with the crap accuracy nodes to get to them.
IGN: LessBow
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Redblade wrote:
Stalk much?

Anyway, me selling a 6L Shav's have little to nothing to do with this. I hope if this policy is unchanged that you end up with a huge chunk of unused pathway nodes in an upcoming change so you might realize it's a poor policy in the first place.


Not that hard... Clicked your name and showed me the thread pretty much lol... Was trying to see how poor you were and if you needed the 4 regrets that I was going to give you FOR FREE. But you don't need them obviously.

If I do, then that just means I was being a cheap ass =/

Edit: Anyway GL all with new changes. Good patch pretty much all around. Thanks GGG!
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Schn1tt3r wrote:
That is ENTIRELY your fault.


Actually it's not...

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Schn1tt3r wrote:
You did it too thinking it would give you a free respec and that is what you get.


No I was hoping for a free respec and that was a gamble on my end, like I said earlier though, if they had refunded the 3 dead points I would have no complaint at all and owned up to my failed attempt.

My issue lies in how poor of a policy it is as it can and more than likely will happen again, next time it might not just be 3 points and affect players that didn't gamble in any way.
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Redblade wrote:
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Schn1tt3r wrote:
That is ENTIRELY your fault.


Actually it's not...

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Schn1tt3r wrote:
You did it too thinking it would give you a free respec and that is what you get.


No I was hoping for a free respec and that was a gamble on my end, like I said earlier though, if they had refunded the 3 dead points I would have no complaint at all and owned up to my failed attempt.

My issue lies in how poor of a policy it is as it can and more than likely will happen again, next time it might not just be 3 points and affect players that didn't gamble in any way.


You just said you GAMBLED hoping for a free respec and then you say it is NOT your fault? Ok, my friend who lost $8000 last weekend gambling at poker is also not to be held responsible then under your logic. Anyway you look at it (and using your own words) it is YOUR failed attempt. You are just bitter that you did not get a FULL respec. Even if you did get refund for those 4 points, you would not have been happy because if you were happy with your FAIL tree, then you would not have attempted to gamble for a full refund in the first place so quit acting like your only grief is 4 Regret Orbs.

I laugh at you and your stupid logic. From what page 2 to page 9 crying for 4 regret orbs you would have already gotten if you played the game instead of cry like a baby.
IGN: LessBow
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Schn1tt3r wrote:
You just said you GAMBLED hoping for a free respec and then you say it is NOT your fault? Ok, my friend who lost $8000 last weekend gambling at poker is also not to be held responsible then under your logic. Anyway you look at it (and using your own words) it is YOUR failed attempt. You are just bitter that you did not get a FULL respec. Even if you did get refund for those 4 points, you would not have been happy because if you were happy with your FAIL tree, then you would not have attempted to gamble for a full refund in the first place so quit acting like your only grief is 4 Regret Orbs.


My initial cost to respec in to the chaos node is entierly my own fault and nothing that I take issue with, that would be the $8000 in you poor analogy, and you're wrong, if I had got the 3 points refunded I would have had no issues at all with this.

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Schn1tt3r wrote:
I laugh at you and your stupid logic. From what page 2 to page 9 crying for 4 regret orbs you would have already gotten if you played the game instead of cry like a baby.


Really no need for personal attacks just because some one voice a valid concern regarding a policy like this...
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nNstead of all the useless QQ in this thread I'll give some actual FEEDBACK on the one char I did play for a few hours after the patch yesterday. My beloved and long forgotten physical/evasion/block ranger.

So far I am fairly pleased with the changes. After spending an hour or so theory crafting the new tree I skiled my points and went back off to war. I ended with about the same amount of HP (a little more but not worth mentioning), 14% increased evasion rating on my char sheet, 4% increased block chance, and a whopping 600 DPS increase (which makes a huge difference when your playing full defense especially considering the amount of other buffs I got for the same skill points). For clarity I have Acobatics ( but none of the nodes after it) leaving me with a total of ....

Pertinent Stats ->
~1600 HP
64% char sheet eva (over 6k)
58% block
~1k dps (the only non phys dmg comes from Hatred)
20% dodge
50 armour
7 ES
Res - 64% fire, 50% cold, 74% light

I could go through my mules and find some better gear since I haven't played her in forever But I kind of wanted to see how she did on her own first.

She is lvl 55 in onslaught cruel act 3 as I refused to go into merc with pure eva since I had already killed her 3 times in act 1 merc. Which is why she was forgotten and left to collect dust.

I noticed a huge jump in survivability. I used to have to pull a couple mobs out of a pack for fear of stun lock. Now i can face tank many white mobs while my life hardly moves. After some extensive testing I moved on to blue mobs, then yellows.

Once I felt as though I had a handle on how much I could take on at once I gathered up a big group in Docks and went to town. When all is said and done I had around 20 or so white mobs with a few fire puppys, a couple small groups (~8) of blues one having additional accuracy, and 2 yellows one of which had phys reflect and the other with crit aura. Grant it a number of these were ranged and with Ordar's they might as well not exists (except that they continually effect my entropy).

Previously if I dared to grab that much at once I would have to dance around for ever to surevive while popping granite, health, and speed pots over and over. And god forbid i take a few hits at once and grab a stun. That typically caused a "OH SHIT RUN" butt pucker. This go round was nothing short of fun!! I still ahd to dance a little. The ocassional whirling blades or flicker to get out of being surrounded. But that's part of the fun of playing pure eva.

The stun evasion was also tuite noticeable. I hadn't taken those nodes before b/c I needed the points for HP. I hardly got stunned at all. The mechanic is still there cause me to have to be on my toes but it's not nearly as punishing as before.

Next round of testing will be with much more magic dmg then on to Lunaris 3, and finally kole. After that I will make my way into merc and keep the devs updated on her progress and how I feel about the changes.

And before you guys jump in with "Who goves a crap about lvl 55" I preimptively counter with "Who gives shit what you think". This post was for the devs as they asked for feedback. And there are plenty of people that care about 55 in onslaught. Solo progression in OS is always important after ~40 if your not playing something OP.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
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Redblade wrote:
Derp

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Snorkle_uk wrote:
Derp

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Galtrovan wrote:
Derp

I seriously lol'd at these guys.
99% of suggested changes would make the game easier. Thats why only 1% of suggested ideas are even worth considering.
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arual wrote:
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Redblade wrote:
Derp

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Snorkle_uk wrote:
Derp

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Galtrovan wrote:
Derp

I seriously lol'd at these guys.


Constructive...

Why is it one can't have a grownup discussion regarding an issue that can potentially affect everyone negatively without having comments like this.

Anyway I'm out, I hope GGG take the complaint at heart and change their policy regarding dead nodes for future changes.
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