[1.0] Balanced MF/HP/DPS --LA/Frenzy Ranger Build.

That would do it also yes before you kill names and bosses he pulls out the 2hnder and the culling will 1 shot them at 10%.

yea lets do some math here.

The way this game is designed, base value is harder to obtain and more efficient than modifier.

like MF,

consider IIQ as base value and IIR as modifier.

its very easy to get IIR to 300+, but its very difficult to obtain IIQ.

in order to max out the drop rate, IIR needs to be equal to IIQ.

Now in terms of elemental damage

a typical lioneye LA should have around 600 base attack as a combination of physical and elemental with 300 base dps coming from the bow itself.

with my build I have around 110% elemental modifier + 90% from WED gem and 60% from gears.

so combined WED will be around 260%. lets say I use an elemental quiver which probably will give me another 30%

If I use blackgleam, LA has 50% conversion, and blackgleam has another 50%, which mean all 600 base attack will be elemental.

so 600 X 260% will be 1560 damage.

If I use elemental quiver instead, I will lose 150dps on the base value as elemental damage. with my build I have no pure physical damage modifier.

so the end result will be 450 X 290% + 150 physical damage = 1455.

And of course when you start to count in the skill modifiers, that gap will become bigger and bigger.

Elemental quiver will be come better when you use crit build though. But in order to do that you need to have enough accuracy first.

ahhhh now i the problem... i m not using WEG gem because i only have a 4l bow..
btw anyone got a 5l or 6l bow for me? would be cool :)

cheers

I asked this on another LA build thread, hope you don't mind me asking here too.

Why do you not take Aspect of the Eagle, if it's only three nodes away from Ballistic Mastery. Is the 20% increased physical damage with bows not worth it, in a LA build.

Regarding your build, are there any other nodes near the starting area that you'd advise a new player to get, which they might choose to re-spec at a later date. One of them I use at low level is Primal Spirit.

Moved the post to another thread coz it was a little bit off topic ;)

first of all let me thank you for the time you have put into fine tuning this build. i respecced like 40 points to get to your build and while my other LA build was fine yours netted me a decent gain in HP and dmg, never really noticed some of the hp nodes you took were much higher % nodes.

my question is, does the 3 nodes Amplify, and Area of effect x 2 actually do anything for us ( well besides curses i presume?) or are they just lost points in order to get to the 3 Elemental nodes and Celestial Walker node? either way im sure the elemental nodes are well worth getting regardless. just didnt know if they benefit LA and make it travel farther or saomething.

Also im using a pretty nice rolled 6l Lioneye's. what kinda dmg would an ele dmg bow need to have in order to outperform it? like how much pyhsical dmg and total elemental dmg would it need to have, and is one particular elemental type superior to another? i would assume lightning-fire-cold is the hierchy correct? Is having all 3 elements needed or is just 2 and another nice mod ok?? just really dont know what to be looking for in an ELEmental bow to upgrade.


TIA

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DynamicFx wrote:

I asked this on another LA build thread, hope you don't mind me asking here too.

Why do you not take Aspect of the Eagle, if it's only three nodes away from Ballistic Mastery. Is the 20% increased physical damage with bows not worth it, in a LA build.

Regarding your build, are there any other nodes near the starting area that you'd advise a new player to get, which they might choose to re-spec at a later date. One of them I use at low level is Primal Spirit.

The physical attack will not do much. Since at least 75% of the damage are elemental for most cases. Since with black gleam you will turn 100% into elemental, going for elemental notes is just more efficient.

I would say go for the Iron reflex before you have enough HP and Regen to survive, and grab resistance notes if you don't have enough resistance. don't really need to change anything else during the leveling.

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Grifting wrote:

first of all let me thank you for the time you have put into fine tuning this build. i respecced like 40 points to get to your build and while my other LA build was fine yours netted me a decent gain in HP and dmg, never really noticed some of the hp nodes you took were much higher % nodes.

my question is, does the 3 nodes Amplify, and Area of effect x 2 actually do anything for us ( well besides curses i presume?) or are they just lost points in order to get to the 3 Elemental nodes and Celestial Walker node? either way im sure the elemental nodes are well worth getting regardless. just didnt know if they benefit LA and make it travel farther or saomething.

Also im using a pretty nice rolled 6l Lioneye's. what kinda dmg would an ele dmg bow need to have in order to outperform it? like how much pyhsical dmg and total elemental dmg would it need to have, and is one particular elemental type superior to another? i would assume lightning-fire-cold is the hierchy correct? Is having all 3 elements needed or is just 2 and another nice mod ok?? just really dont know what to be looking for in an ELEmental bow to upgrade.


TIA

Yes I have verified that LA is considered as an AOE skills. It will increase the range of the after shock which will directly increase your damage. Plus curse and leap slam will benefit from it too.

Any elemental damage is ok actually. For my build fire will do a little better because of Lava leash, but the differences is probably not even noticeable. Since with black gleam it will be 100% conversion, so you just need to look at total dps. More than likely you will have to take RT. The average lioneye dps is probably around 300dps. I would say you want at least 330 dps thicket to beat the lioneye. But be warned, the improvement will be small though. But if you are at the end game like me, tiny improvement is better than no improvement.

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Hokuto_Tenro wrote:

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Grifting wrote:

first of all let me thank you for the time you have put into fine tuning this build. i respecced like 40 points to get to your build and while my other LA build was fine yours netted me a decent gain in HP and dmg, never really noticed some of the hp nodes you took were much higher % nodes.

my question is, does the 3 nodes Amplify, and Area of effect x 2 actually do anything for us ( well besides curses i presume?) or are they just lost points in order to get to the 3 Elemental nodes and Celestial Walker node? either way im sure the elemental nodes are well worth getting regardless. just didnt know if they benefit LA and make it travel farther or saomething.

Also im using a pretty nice rolled 6l Lioneye's. what kinda dmg would an ele dmg bow need to have in order to outperform it? like how much pyhsical dmg and total elemental dmg would it need to have, and is one particular elemental type superior to another? i would assume lightning-fire-cold is the hierchy correct? Is having all 3 elements needed or is just 2 and another nice mod ok?? just really dont know what to be looking for in an ELEmental bow to upgrade.


TIA

Yes I have verified that LA is considered as an AOE skills. It will increase the range of the after shock which will directly increase your damage. Plus curse and leap slam will benefit from it too.

Any elemental damage is ok actually. For my build fire will do a little better because of Lava leash, but the differences is probably not even noticeable. Since with black gleam it will be 100% conversion, so you just need to look at total dps. More than likely you will have to take RT. The average lioneye dps is probably around 300dps. I would say you want at least 330 dps thicket to beat the lioneye. But be warned, the improvement will be small though. But if you are at the end game like me, tiny improvement is better than no improvement.

well if we are just looking at a small improvement by replacing Lioneye's i think ill just hold out a while before lookign to replace it. mine is a high roll and 6l and i can just try and upgrade some otehr pieces instead for now.

also ive followed your tree to the letter pretty much, minus the nodes to get Resolute, and for some reason im short on dex to use some skills so ive had to drop down below static blows to grab that 30dex node, which costs me 2 passives. i have 220 dex w/the +30 dex node. im lvl 78 and my next node ill take is Amplify and work my way to celestial walker. just wish i knew why im low on dex for skills, would be nice to get those 2 passives back. also ive not taken the frenzy charge node yet either, figured id get the ele dmg ones first.

that is because you are using lioneye and I am using thicket. thicket has much lower dex requirement. But at the same time you saved 1 note from resolute tech too. I would suggest to get a +20 onyx to fill some of those requirement for int and dex. then you still need to find 22 dex from some where else. My build has 1 direct access to the +30 dex note near blood magic. You shouldn't need any extras as long as you are wearing a onyx.