Five macros that will make your life easier

Playing with macros, playing hardcore smart. I dont use them on Poe cause im a SC but i came from UO which is the most macro intense game, thanks for the macros.

Most of the macros exist because of different mistakes (design decisions) on GGG's part anyway.

/OOS helps fight desync which shouldn't be there in first place and everyone who plays without such macro is not very smart.
Itemlevel should be on the popup toolpit for items anyway.
Portal should be bindable to a key without the need of the portal gem.
Auto/fast identification as well.

The one that annoys me most is the logout macro, but that one is also there because of design choice made by GGG.

I just have one thing to say to all the people who use a logout macro - if you think you are playing true hardcore, you are fooling yourself and it's sad.

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mazul wrote:

It doesn't matter where you think automation "starts"; anything that a program does that used to be done manually, is "automation" per definition.

Yeah, it was maybe a bit odd expressed; automation is not really the center of my point.

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mazul wrote:

Also, out of curiosity: why do you draw the line for what automation you find acceptable based on whether or not it automatically extracts information from the client? It is a technical line, but this is a matters of ethics, so what is your ethical reason for drawing the line there?

Automation or not, technically a scripted typing does no kind of intrusion; while reading data from the screen/out of the game can be considered as a (very minor) kind of reverse engineering. The other thing is, how differs such a "pure" software macro function from a similar solution in hardware? ->there are keyboards that can do the exactly same as this scripts; deny, really??

Beside this, the ethical view is based on the impact it has - scripting commands like /oos, /itemlevel and even /Alt-F4 only shortcut existing functions, they do not steer your chars, do not automate the gameplay itself. They are - like stash tabs - a convenient advantage, not more. (You have a bit more time to react, but I also had situations where I could not rely on the oos script, and - once typed - it also only 3 keyboard strokes 'manually' (Enter, Up, Enter) to repeat it.

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f0xx wrote:

I just have one thing to say to all the people who use a logout macro - if you think you are playing true hardcore, you are fooling yourself and it's sad.

I dont use it now, but I consider it;

is it really a difference, if one is 'skilled' enough to quit manually that fast that the script is not needed? Or is it bad that its possible to quit (fast) at all, even in dangerous situations?

Is it really a difference, if you managed to survive deadly situations with all existing options (even by quickleaving the game), or probably never benn faced in such a situation in the char's life? The only thing your HC char proves, is that he'd never died - and say nothing about the circumstances...

Just an FYI

I'm going to stay out of the whole debate about what is morally right or wrong.

However I would like to make one clear distinction.

There are two types of automation.



Arguments against generic automation are weak and ill-informed.

Generally people feel Type A is morally wrong while Type B is in the grey area or constantly argued about. But, like I said I'm keeping out of that whole debate. If you want to discuss it with me feel free to send a PM ^_^

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Mr_Cee wrote:

The only thing your HC char proves, is that he'd never died - and say nothing about the circumstances...

One can prove that his character has never died in softcore too.

People play HC for that extra right to brag, because it usually takes skill to survive hard situations. There is no skill in pushing a button when you see the situation gets rough.

But that being said, this is obviously a design decision, so the blame should not be put on the players. It's just funny how someone wants to play HC and then uses such a macro.

Panko himself has a video uploaded on youtube in which he uses that macro not once, but twice in the same map.

True Hardcore...

I don't get it. What's the point of these things? I do not mind them, per se, but they aren't specifically useful for game mechanics.

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f0xx wrote:

Most of the macros exist because of different mistakes (design decisions) on GGG's part anyway.

and i am not saying ggg is perfect... but you should be on the forums asking for such things to be automatic for all users (oos on skill use, itemlevel prominently displayed) rather than editing the game yourself. there is no such thing as cheating for a good cause; op's actions, like all cheats, are self-serving laziness

I will appreciate it if someone has a usefull macro, except the Lighting stirke hit in one place macro, to share with us.

I personally don't care if people use stuff like this. Whatever makes the game fun for them.

Also anyone that does use his scripts you will want to put this at the top of the script so it is only active when PoE is active.



AHK is awesome. I use it for work and play =p