Listening to the community too much is what ruined PoE 1 for many of us.

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

Are you just baiting people to call you names so they get banned? Why do you say such dumb things?

If you have no argument, just say so. Simply telling people "ur wrong and dumb" doesn't really hold any weight.

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MisterFancyPants#7969 wrote:

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rob_korn#1745 wrote:

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awesome999#2945 wrote:

You are way too comfortable with disrespecting and offending people.

You can ask question and they can refuse to answer your questions. Freedom of Expression includes both the right to speak freely and the right to refrain from speaking at all. Especially when they emphasizes it is specifically you, that they don't want to talk to. You can't force people to talk to you.

That's a forum mate. What forcing are you talking about ? At the end of the day you and me are noone...
Talking like I am menacing at gunpoint, get back down on earth with us please, there is no victim, you're not defending the poor here.

Your debate here reminds me of a Mike Tyson quote (I think it was him):

"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

There's some truth to that.

There's way more than SOME truth to that. You could Ctrl F "ShadyC" in this thread (or these forums in general), and see that most people quoting me are only doing so to insult me without actually discussing any of the talking points.

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MisterFancyPants#7969 wrote:

Your debate here reminds me of a Mike Tyson quote (I think it was him):

"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

There's some truth to that.

There's definitely truth in that.

But it's a bit different here. Some dude said some stuff, that I experienced as well, so asked his insights. This original dude said "not interested", fair enough, end of the story.

Then some defender of the poor came on my back when I didn't had anything to do with him. If I was aggressing first dude, then what is he doing ? Oh the irony... I could consider myself aggressed here as well, I just went on with the "open" discussion.

I'm not throwing any insult over some random social media for the buzz mate, I asked a genuine question, original dude said not interested, that's about it. The rest is just mental gymnastic from a guy blaming me for supposedly feigning whatever insecurity he has.

He went down to responsibilities, accountabilities, laws and whatnot. Like what the actual F. It's a game forum ffs... I feel like I'm dealing with a feminist or something like that. Weird...

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AIDA_TriEdge#4390 wrote:

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girng#7675 wrote:

it's blizz north all over again. no one communicates on the forums, reddit, etc like they used to. all lead people vanished, and the rest of the team just work to get that juicy tencent check

the tides have changed. sadly, for the worst

And the community is definitely at fault here. Singling out people and calling them the problem when they are clearly doing something with passion makes them want to communicate less and less since there is 0 appreciation.

Hell, that's why reddit comunication from GGG stopped.

not wrong there, i can't rebut that. definitely a huge factor.

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rob_korn#1745 wrote:

There's definitely truth in that.

But it's a bit different here. Some dude said some stuff, that I experienced as well, so asked his insights. This original dude said "not interested", fair enough, end of the story.

You said some mean stuff and that dude supposedly call you a donkey. You should avoid talking about it as it most certainly wouldn't help your case.

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Then some defender of the poor came on my back when I didn't had anything to do with him. If I was aggressing first dude, then what is he doing ? Oh the irony... I could consider myself aggressed here as well, I just went on with the "open" discussion.

To determine if someone is lying. It is interesting that you associated me with the defender of the poor when I did nothing of that sort. It hit like a wet noodle. Am I supposed to feel angry at that? I don't think that suit me.

You can't stand my Passive aggressive behavior? I am pleased with your positive feedback.

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I'm not throwing any insult over some random social media for the buzz mate, I asked a genuine question, original dude said not interested, that's about it. The rest is just mental gymnastic from a guy blaming me for supposedly feigning whatever insecurity he has.

He went down to responsibilities, accountabilities, laws and whatnot. Like what the actual F. It's a game forum ffs... I feel like I'm dealing with a feminist or something like that. Weird...

I do mental gymnastics at an Olympic level. You are offensive and so am I. When you say you didn't know you are offensive, you have prove otherwise. You do know what is offensive and how to be offensive.

I thought you would have called me an interrogator. Or a nutjob would be more appropriate. But feminists? You apparently dislike feminists. I wonder if it is appropriate to call you women's rights hater?

It is a game forum featuring people bragging about themselves and putting other people down.

+1 to the OP.

Here's a quote from Dreadful on Tri's podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eU8f3YNvx0&t=2540s (53:28)

There's a bunch of customers that are ordering an egg salad sandwich even though they know they don't like egg salad. And then they complain to the chef that this egg salad sandwich sucks.
And the chef is like 'But it's the vision of the egg salad sandwich to be like this'.
And then they're like 'Well, I wanna Big Mac!'.
'We don't want to make a Big Mac, that's McDonalds.'
'Well, but we want you to do that'
'Okay fine, we will put a little bit of Big Mac in your egg salad sandwich...'


Stick to your vision! I love the game and don't want the complaining voice of the community that wants to steer the game to something that it does not want to be.

Only thing "ruining" PoE1... is PoE2.

Instead of them working on a game I love, they are busy working on some slow clunky Soulslike.

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awesome999#2945 wrote:

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I didn't say mean stuff, I asked a question. It's your perception.
Original dude didn't call me a donkey, it's coming now, from you.
I couldn't care if you're angry or not mate, I have no interest at all in that.
You're still here trying to put a narrative while the original poster just let go, and I'm fine with it.

I don't care if you're passive aggressive or not, didn't even note it. I just tried to show the irony of you condemning my supposed aggression with you doing the same. If you want to blame someone, would be better not doing it yourself.
That's not me trying to prove what I am or not, I can't prove what doesn't exist. I asked a question, rest is in your head, as I said multiple times.

I didn't call you a feminist, I have no way nor am I interested in your opinions outside the game. On the other hand, it feels the same as talking to feminists nowadays, where any argument or explanation, even over something that isn't a thing in the first place, is just twisted towards "you hate me cuz I'm a woman" : "I have no hate, what are you talking about".
Same here from you : "you are aggressive, you feign ignorance" : mate, I just asked a question, have nothing to prove, just asking a damn question. The goal was even discribed, there is no hidden evil purpose.
"He doesn't want to talk to you" yeah, and he didn't, so what ? It's a forum, I'm not in his face. What a nothing burger...

You're just imagining and picturing some intent, that simply doesn't exist, and I kinda wonder why.

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rob_korn#1745 wrote:

You're just imagining and picturing some intent, that simply doesn't exist, and I kinda wonder why.

He showed his intent by this sentence:

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I do mental gymnastics at an Olympic level.

He's here for the "fun" of discussing, not for the cause itself. He cares about viewing himself as the winner of a discussion, not for the discussion to bring feedback to the game or to see/learn new perspective. He only answers posts/arguments he feels he can "pick apart".

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

My brother in christ. ARPGs never had and never will have meaningful gameplay. It was always about blasting.

Then there's no damn reason to play them. if this attitude I keep seeing is The True Heart of ARPGs? The entire genre is dead and worthless, and there's no sense in continuing to make them. Mindless zoomy blasting is boring beyond comprehension, which is why PoE1 doesn't grow much at all anymore. There's no incentive for anyone who hasn't been playing it for ten years already to come and play it now, because understanding the currency market is impossible for anyone who doesn't spend a thousand hours watching streamers and there's no other reason or incentive to run the first game beyond "accrue ten million Divines in three days, buy a build that trivializes the entire game, spend the remaining two-and-three-quarters month of the league complaining about balance and a lack of content."

If Jonathan and his team fail at revitalizing this tired, pointless genre? Then we may as well dispense with it and be done, just as Blizzard did in the days before PoE1 first launched - with, I will remind you, the exact same goals and objectives Jonathan and his team have for this new game.

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

If you want a challenging game and experience the Eldritch horrors, boot up Bloodborne.

Got any updates on when that one's coming to Steam?

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

The AI in this game doesn't even allow for meaningful gameplay because 90% of trash monster attacks don't even have attack patterns compared to games like Souls, Nioh, Monster Hunter.

You're mistaking the man's intention, as does everyone who constantly complains about hAtInG sOuLsLiKeS. Not every last single individual monster needs to be an Epic Duel. Trash packs can be simple to deal with, but as an aggregate the game needs to be able to challenge the player. Certain compositions of trash packs can throw off the player's game plan and require adjustment and reaction, specific rares can press the player hard, and bosses should always be a difficult and drawn-out battle where you're unsure if your healing resources are up to the task.

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

Jonathan and his game will fail big time, when they try to implement the souls formula into a game with Breach, Deli, Ritual (all blaster mechanics btw).

Then I guess either those mechanics will evolve, or the game will have indeed failed in its ultimate purpose and there will be no more goddamned point pretending that ARPGs can satisfy the itch that Path of Exile is supposed to satisfy - the interesting buildcrafting, customization, and decision-making aspects this game alone has ever even come close to getting right.

All the boomer zoomer blaster master Must-Go-Faster speedclear people can keep PoE1. That game is unsalvageable and pointless these days. The rest of us were supposed to get a new breed of ARPG in PoE2; if you lot ruin this one too, then to hell with the entire pointless genre. It's not like the oh-so-dreaded Soulslikes haven't been absolutely annihilating them in sales for the last decade or so oh wait a minute...